On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The initial use case I had with Log Analyzer was, as a general log >>> analysis tool, where users can just point to a log location, can be >>> WSO2/non-WSO2 logs, and run queries against it / create dashboards. The >>> concern I've with integrating log analyzer also with our new analytics >>> distributions is, whether we will have some considering overlapping >>> functionality between the two. The DAS4X analytics effort is to basically >>> create mostly the static dashboards that would be there (maybe with >>> alerts), which can be successfully done by internally publishing all the >>> events required for those. But then, if we also say, you can/should use log >>> analyzer (which is a different UI/experience altogether) to create >>> dashboards/queries, that we missed from the earlier effort, that does not >>> sound right. >>> >> >> Anjana, point is dynamic/ad-hoc query use cases. E.g. >> 1) You see a new error, and want to check has it happend before. >> 2) You see two error happening together. You need to know it has happend >> together before. >> > > True. the use cases are there. I was just thinking, if it will fit the > flow with the other analytics operations we do. Anyways, on second thought, > even if it's totally separate also, having searchable (analyzable) logs > readily available, after we install the full analytics solution for a > product, would be useful. > > Can this be done at the presentation layer as well, with drill down capabilities through dashboards? > Cheers, > Anjana. > > >> >> >>> >>> So the point is, as I see, if we do the pure DAS4X solution right for a >>> product, they do not have an immediate need to use the log analysis >>> features again to do any custom analysis. But of course, if they want to >>> process the logs also nevertheless, they can setup the log analyzer product >>> and do it, for example, as a replacement to syslog, for centralized log >>> storage. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Anjana. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I believe we should integrate Log Analyzer with analytics distributions >>>> of the products. >>>> >>>> It is true some of the information you can take from Log analyzer is >>>> already available under normal analytics. For those, we do not need to use >>>> Log analyzer. >>>> >>>> However, log analyzer let us find and understand use cases that is not >>>> already instrumented. For example, when we see a error, we might check has >>>> a similar error happened before. Basically we can check ad-hoc dynamic use >>>> cases via log analyzer. Example of this is analytics done by our Cloud >>>> team. >>>> >>>> In general, log analyzer will be used by advanced users who will >>>> understand inner workings for the product. It will be a very powerful >>>> debugging tool. >>>> >>>> However, if we want to embed the log analyzer, then it is challenging >>>> due to ruby based log stash we use with log analyzer. I think in that case, >>>> we also need a java based log agent. >>>> >>>> Please comment. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Srinath >>>> -- >>>> ============================ >>>> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com twitter:@srinath_perera >>>> Site: http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/ >>>> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/ >>>> Phone: 0772360902 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Anjana Fernando* >>> Senior Technical Lead >>> WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com >>> lean . enterprise . middleware >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ============================ >> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com twitter:@srinath_perera >> Site: http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/ >> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/ >> Phone: 0772360902 >> > > > > -- > *Anjana Fernando* > Senior Technical Lead > WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com > lean . enterprise . middleware > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture mailing list > Architecture@wso2.org > https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture > > -- Thanks & Regards Iranga Muthuthanthri (M) -0777-255773 Team Product Management
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