Hi Kasun,

In the axis2 level, we can see "sendStacktraceDetailsWithFaults" and
"DrillDownToRootCauseForFaultReason" parameters. Can't we use those
parameters to propagate the errors happens in the transport layer?

Thanks.
/Susankha.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <ka...@wso2.com> wrote:

> For most of E3 type errors (such as timeout, connection closing etc.) we
> do invoke fault sequence (if not specified default fault sequence) of the
> associated mediation logic. However, the current design doesn't not
> guarantee that all possible errors are handled in that way. That's why we
> need a generic fault handling logic in the transport layer, so that we
> propagate all errors.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Isuru Udana <isu...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kasun, what is the answer?
>>>>
>>>> Problem is that client does not know when  the result will come back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. If client call start only a one sequence, and it has failed,
>>>>    then we can stop the client connection.
>>>>    2. If client call has started multiple sequences, error handler
>>>>    should decide what to do. We should provide killCurrentCall() kind of a
>>>>    sequence to let error handler tell engine to cleanup.
>>>>    3. If all fails, then timeout will handle that.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>> I am not sure whether I got your idea correctly.
>>> IMO, irrespective of number of sequences in the message flow, we should
>>> invoke the fault handler for all errors occurring at different layers and
>>> at the fault handler we need to allow user to decide what's need to be
>>> done.
>>>
>>
>> Two concerns in this case
>>
>> 1. In default case, where no error handler has been defined, scenario
>> should work and print correct errors.
>>
> Yes, it invokes the default fault handler. The problem is that if the
> default fault handler just logs the errors does not respond client, the
> client waits and holds the connection to ESB. We can easily fix this by
> changing the default fault handler logic.
>
> 2. When, multiple threads or sequences has been started, we need to
>> provide helper fucntion to stop cleanup other thread if user need to handle
>> it.
>>
>> Yeah, this make sense when we have complex mediation logic that involves
> multiple threads (such as iterate,clone etc.)
>
>> I am trying to address above two.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Currently for all the errors happens at the mediation layer, fault
>>> sequence is getting executed.
>>> But there can be situations where fault handler is not executed for
>>> errors happens at the lower layers at the transport sender side. That is
>>> the problem we need to test and address carefully.
>>>
>> Can we give java level callback for this case?
>>
> Yeah, I think we can use a generic callback object and use that across the
> transport layer to invoke when any error happens.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Srinath
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Artur Reaboi <artur.rea...@egov.md>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any workarounds recommended for E3 type of errors on current
>>>>> WSO2 ESB 4.9.0?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Artur Reaboi*
>>>>> *Enterprise Architect | e-Government Center*
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel +373 22 250 487 |Mob +373 79 440 064 |Skype reaboi.artur
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Architecture [mailto:architecture-boun...@wso2.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Kasun Indrasiri
>>>>> *Sent:* marți, 17 mai 2016 00:07
>>>>> *To:* architecture <architecture@wso2.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* [Architecture] Improving error handling at different
>>>>> layers in ESB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ESB has to deal with different types of errors occurring at multiple
>>>>> layers in ESB message flow. As depicted in the following diagram, there 
>>>>> can
>>>>> be different places where an error could happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment, the current design doesn't seems to ensure that all
>>>>> errors are propagated back to the other layers. For instance, if something
>>>>> goes wrong at the target side (E3 type errors) there's no generic place
>>>>> that all such errors are caught or handled and client may be holding up 
>>>>> the
>>>>> connection to ESB. In most cases, such errors should be propagated to the
>>>>> associated fault sequence and error handling happens in the fault 
>>>>> sequence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore we need to carefully evaluate the possible places that the
>>>>> errors can occur and handle them at an unified layer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ​Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kasun
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Kasun Indrasiri
>>>>> Software Architect
>>>>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
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>>>>
>>>>
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