The last nanog was in June. The next is in October 

Cathy 

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> On Jul 1, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Derek Calanchini <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a NANOG this month?  For some reason I though it was supposed to be 
> around now?
>  Best regards,
> 
>    Derek Calanchini
>    Owner
>    Creative Network Solutions
>    Phone: 916-852-2890
>    Fax: 916-852-2899
> 
> "Adopt the metric system!"
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>> On 7/1/2014 1:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Martin Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott, 
>>> 
>>> Asking me to do the work the AC is supposed to do is like asking a nun to 
>>> certify their virginity. 
>> 
>> In the interests of supporting our community, I               volunteer to 
>> ...
>> 
>> oh, wait.  Wrong question.
>> 
>> I mean "I support this proposal".  
>> 
>> Matt
>>  
>>> 
>>> I made my point and I feel zero need to defend what is completely obvious 
>>> and on the record. 
>>> 
>>> As I explained to our "CEO and President", feel free to demonstrate 
>>> otherwise. 
>>> 
>>> Best, 
>>> 
>>> Martin 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 19:38, Scott Leibrand <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Martin,
>>>> 
>>>> I felt the objections raised at previous meetings were addressed, not 
>>>> ignored. Can you clarify how you feel that this policy would make it 
>>>> harder for a recipient to qualify to receive space via transfer? The 
>>>> intent here is to allow organizations to create new discrete networks and 
>>>> qualify for space from them. If you think it will do the opposite, it's 
>>>> worth detailing how and why. 
>>>> 
>>>> It's also worth noting that, by documenting the basic requirements for 
>>>> such networks, it also reduces ARIN staff's discretion and provides 
>>>> additional policy certainty. 
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Martin  Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Objection, with the majority of the                               
>>>>> community from the previous ARIN meeting, recent NANOG PPC and other 
>>>>> comments and fora discussion. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But don't let that stop the ARIN AC from moving it forward in its 
>>>>> obsession with controlling v4 markets. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -M< 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 17:34, CJ Aronson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone have comments on this recommended draft policy?   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> ----Cathy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:16 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC)                                         
>>>>>>> met on 19 June 2014 and decided                                         
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> send the following to last call:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New 
>>>>>>> Multiple Discrete Networks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should
>>>>>>> be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. This last call will
>>>>>>> expire on 8 July 2014. After last call the AC will conduct their
>>>>>>> last call review.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The draft policy text is below and available at:
>>>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
>>>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Communications and Member Services
>>>>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ## * ##
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8
>>>>>>> Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: 16 May 2014
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AC's assessment of conformance with the Principles of Internet Number 
>>>>>>> Resource Policy:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This proposal enables fair and impartial number resource administration 
>>>>>>> by documenting how to get a new block for a new discrete network. 
>>>>>>> Previous versions of the policy did have this information and over time 
>>>>>>> it has been removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This proposal is technically sound. There is a need for discrete 
>>>>>>> networks and an organization should have a policy that would allow it 
>>>>>>> to create a new discrete network.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This proposal is supported by the community. There has been some 
>>>>>>> concern about the criterial that will be used and this version has been 
>>>>>>> updated with the current thinking on the criteria.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Policy Statement:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IPv4:
>>>>>>> Add the following statement to                                         
>>>>>>> section 4.5.4.
>>>>>>> Upon verification that the organization has shown evidence of 
>>>>>>> deployment of the new discrete network site, the new network(s) shall 
>>>>>>> be allocated the minimum allocation size under section 4.2.1.5 unless 
>>>>>>> the organization can demonstrate additional need using the immediate 
>>>>>>> need criteria (4.2.1.6).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IPv6:
>>>>>>> Add an additional reference to section 6.11.5.b such that it references 
>>>>>>> both the initial allocation and subsequent allocation sections of the 
>>>>>>> IPv6 LIR policy.
>>>>>>> "Each network will be judged against the existing utilization criteria 
>>>>>>> specified in 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 as if it were a separate organization..."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Comments:
>>>>>>> a. Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>>>>> b. This policy is being proposed based upon the Policy Implementation & 
>>>>>>> Experience Report from ARIN 32.
>>>>>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf
>>>>>>> c: Older versions of the MDN policy did contain new network criteria. 
>>>>>>> This criteria appears to have been dropped during subsequent rewrites 
>>>>>>> of the MDN policy. "The organization must not allocate a CIDR block 
>>>>>>> larger than the current minimum assignment size of the RIR (currently 
>>>>>>> /20 for ARIN) to a new network." 
>>>>>>> (https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf)
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