I think the SWIP requirement should be the same as what is routable internet wide. /24 for IPV4 and whatever for IPV6. Anything less is the /24 holder's problem to deal with. If it is public routable then require SWIP otherwise let the routable holder manage it. Blacklists deal with it that way. Every had a /25 that the other associated /25 had spammers on it?
Lots of fun! :-)
Now if the blacklist characters would work with the smaller IP ranges that would be great, but will they?

Paul McNary
pmcn...@cameron.net


On 6/6/2017 3:10 PM, Roberts, Orin wrote:

/“Since we require SWIP for IPv4 /24s”///

ARIN also currently requires a SWIP for an IPv4 /29 , which makes “/60" a more applicable reference point; unless the intent is to minimize or eliminate SWIPs for IPv6 (ISPs won’t mind).

Orin

*From:*ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] *On Behalf Of *William Herrin
*Sent:* June-06-17 3:04 PM
*To:* Leif Sawyer
*Cc:* arin-ppml@arin.net
*Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Leif Sawyer <lsaw...@gci.com <mailto:lsaw...@gci.com>> wrote:

    The boundaries at /60, /56, and /48  have all been discussed.  If
    one is more favorable than
    the other, and you would like to see the proposal edited to use
    that one, we will certainly
    take that under advisory.

Hi Leif,

IMHO, IPv6 /48 = IPv4 /24. Since we require SWIP for IPv4 /24s, we should require it for IPv6 /48s.

I'd be comfortable with "more than a /56" and "more than a /60." I prefer "more than a /56."

I would oppose "/60 or more" or "/56 or more" because I believe that would encourage ISPs to engage in unhealthy assignment practices to avoid SWIP reporting, such as assigning /64s, /61s and /57s.

Regards,

Bill Herrin

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