Albert - We’ll research into these questions and report back shortly.
Thanks! /John > On 17 Jul 2017, at 2:53 PM, hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote: > > Just a couple of questions regarding the carrots and the sticks for the ARIN > staff: > > Other than those who came back to change their initial /35 to a /32, how many > ARIN customers have come back for another allocation of IPv6 space because > they used the first one to the extent the rules require, which I think is 75% > of /48 block assignments. > > And, how many customers have received a first allocation of IPv6? > > Divide, and I can find out what percentage came back for more. > > What I would like to know is my gut feeling correct, which is that after > receiving an allocation of IPv6, nearly nobody ever returns to the well for > more, or at least not like it was back in the IPv4 days when ARIN had IPv4 > address space to allocate, and thus there are no sticks? > > Another bit of info I would like to know if possible: what percentage of > customers with a v6 allocation has actually put any of their assignments into > SWIP? Since the current policy for SWIP in IPv6 is /64 or more, every > allocation should be there. > > The answers are useful to determine as far as the documenting the assignment > for ARIN, how useful SWIP is for that purpose. > > I have a /48 from 2 upstreams. Only one is registered. The other ISP does > not appear to have ANY SWIP entries, even though I have set up the network > with static v6 for at least a dozen customers, each of which received a /48. > > Another "proxy" for to consider in deciding to SWIP or not might be the > delegation of the reverse DNS for the allocated block. If there is a > delegation, this is another way to find the technical contact other than SWIP > if there is a problem. > > Albert Erdmann > Network Administrator > Paradise On Line Inc. > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017, David Farmer wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:11 PM, David R Huberman <dav...@panix.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Can you define voluntary? >>>> >>>> Is the voluntary choice to record a reassignment >>>> up to the USP? >>>> >>>> Or does the choice belong to the end-user? >>>> >>> >>> I think that's a business decision the two parties make together. I think >>> an ISP can choose to SWIP whatever it wants, and should do so with the >>> consent of the end-user. I think an end-user should be able to demand a >>> SWIP entry, and the ISP should generally comply. >>> >> >> And if the ISP doesn't comply with the user's demand, can one of their >> recourses be to appeal to ARIN? Obviously, in a healthy market another, >> and maybe more effective, option is to get another ISP. However, not all >> markets are healthy and too frequently users have only one realistic option >> for an ISP, especially in rural areas. >> >> I think it is important that if a user requests a SWIP from an ISP, and >> they not given the SWIP, this should be at very least a technical violation >> of ARIN policy. Is ARIN going to revoke an ISP's address space because of >> a single complaint from a user in this regard, of course not, but I would >> expect ARIN to intercede with an ISP on behalf of the user. However, if >> there are repeated issues, especially large numbers of them, and if there >> are other policy violations too, then I would expect harsher actions by >> ARIN eventually. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> =============================================== >> David Farmer Email:far...@umn.edu >> Networking & Telecommunication Services >> Office of Information Technology >> University of Minnesota >> 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 >> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 >> =============================================== >> > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues.
