Hi PPML, Please be patient on this one. There is a lot of incorrect information reference these two forms and we will be sending out a clarification to this list later this morning with exact details of each form.
Thanks, John S. From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> on behalf of Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com> Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:57 AM To: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com> Cc: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5 I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently optional. Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however. ---- On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:58:21 -0400 Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com> wrote --- Dear ARIN-PPML, Please find my comments below, inline... Thanks. Le samedi 25 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com<mailto:t...@iptrading.com>> a écrit : Owen, This is actually the link for the sample Officer Attestation: Hi Tom, Thanks for adding more clarifications, brother :-) https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/OfficerAttestation_watermark.pdf The link you provided was for the "Officer Acknowledgement". Right, thanks! The Officer Acknowledgement is a notarized form Here, you seem to have kickly generalised an optional act :-/ It's not what the documented [1] procedure states: <quote1> "*No notarization is necessary*. Note that the form will be provided to you and is not available via our website." </quote1> __ [1]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/attestation/#:~:text=No%20notarization%20is%20necessary,not%20available%20via%20our%20website. signed by the Seller of the resources verifying, among other things, that the signer is authorized on behalf of the source entity to make the resource transfer. ...it would be really useful to render this attestation mandatory, imho; as it appears to be optional [1]. That helps to avoid a situation where an unauthorized employee with ARIN online access could make a resource transfer without permission. Thanks for mentioning this valuable detail. FWIW, the tool is available; but it's still [2] optional :'-( <paste2> "Officer Acknowledgment The Officer Acknowledgment form , *when signed* *and notarized*, *is required to be provided* to ARIN *by a source organization* (current registrant) for a Transfer to Specified Recipients in the ARIN Region (8.3) or an Inter-RIR Transfer (8.4). An officer of the source organization needs to sign this form, have it notarized, and provide it to ARIN." </paste2> __ [2]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/#:~:text=Officer%20Acknowledgment,notarized%2C%20and%20provide%20it%20to%20ARIN. Would you like it to become mandatory? The Officer Attestation is a simpler form signed by the Buyer attesting to the accuracy of the justification data and doesn't require notarization. Tom, could you, please, explain why? ...imho! the new resource holder *must* be an org which is willing to demonstrate its *need* of INRs. That's the one the draft policy seeks to eliminate. This is a new information, at least for me, and i thank you for this useful clarification, brother. ...i see it, at least, become optionally validated. As you explained; the interest in validating the Officer Acknowledgement document, is to add more confidence to the process, for the new resource holder. Why not also validate Officer Acknowledgement documents? If the new resource holder's right representative could sign a notarized document, then the new destination of those INRs, being transfered, might be more safe, and the numbering community would celebrate that happy end...imho :-/ Rather than supporting this attempt to prevent the use of Officer Attestation documents, i recommend that its validation becomes the norm & its non validation an exception. This would add more protection against INRs reservation, imho. Thanks to let me know if i misunderstood something... This is where, i have to call John again...or anyone, with clue, from ARIN's Staff...for help :-) Shalom, --sb. Best Regards, Tom Fantacone ---- On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 00:41:46 -0400 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> wrote --- > > [...] > -- Best Regards ! __ baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure> Subscribe to Mailing List: <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/> __ #LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!» #MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement «Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)
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