Ah, with that clarification, I would support expanding the requirement to include ASNs and IPv6 issuances (and IPv4 if applicable) rather than removing it from 8.5.5.
I agree we should be consistent about requiring it or not, but I think it is a key tool in reducing fraud and would prefer it to be preserved. IIRC, I commented roughly the same in the consultation, but I had forgotten about it and its outcome. Owen > On Jun 27, 2022, at 14:30, John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net> wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > Not any longer, we did a consultation on removing the attestation some months > ago and stopped requiring it as a result. The only place it was left was in > this one policy for 8.3 transfers. It was Consultation 2021.04 Retiring the > Officer Attestation Requirement > <https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2021/2021-4/> > > Thanks > John S. > > From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> > Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 3:55 PM > To: John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net> > Cc: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation > Requirement for 8.5.5 > > John, > > Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the attestation is required of ALL > recipients, not only specified transfer recipients. > > This would include recipients receiving v4 or v6 resources from an ARIN > application as well as those receiving them through specified transfers. I > don’t recall whether this applies to merger/acquisition transfers or not, so > clarification there would also probably be useful. > > I realize that the DP in question proposes removing the requirement only from > certain specified transfers. > > I’m still opposed to this proposal for the reasons stated and I thank you for > this clarification to the community. > > Owen > > > > On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:03, John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net > <mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>> wrote: > > Hello PPML, > > ARIN would like to provide a clarification on both the Officer Attestation > which is what is highlighted in DP ARIN-2022-3 and the Officer > Acknowledgement which is not included in that Draft Policy. > > Officer Attestation, as referenced in ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual > (NRPM) 8.5.5 Block Size is specifically asking for an officer of the > organization to attest to the documented justification that states at least > 50% of the requested block size will be used within the next 24 months. There > is no notarization required and it serves to state and confirm that yes, that > is our plan for the next 24 months and the information and documentation > provided is accurate. This is only asked for in conjunction with a specified > transfer recipient. > > On the other hand, Officer Acknowledgement, which is not contained in the > NRPM, is an operational requirement for Source Organizations (Current > Registrant) found at: > > https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/ > <https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/> > > This requirement states that “The source organization must provide a signed > and notarized Officer Acknowledgement Letter > <https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf>. > The purposes of this requirement are: > > -to state that there are no known disputes from another party to claim rights > to these Internet number resources > -to ensure that a duly authorized officer has the authority to legally bind > the source registrant > -to document the authorization to transfer said resources > -to provide indemnification to ARIN > -to verify that the data in the transfer request ticket is accurate > -to agree to all terms and release the rights to the Internet number > resources contained in the specified transfer ticket. > > As you can see there is really no comparison to the two separate and distinct > documents that serve two very different purposes. > > If there is further information required please reply and we will get that > out to the list. > > Thanks, > John S. > > > From: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com <mailto:absc...@gmail.com>> > Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 11:33 AM > To: John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net <mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>> > Cc: Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com <mailto:t...@iptrading.com>>, ARIN PPML > <arin-ppml@arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation > Requirement for 8.5.5 > > Dear ARIN-PPML, > > Please find my comments below, inline... > Thanks. > > Le lundi 27 juin 2022, John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net > <mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>> a écrit : > Hi PPML, > > Please be patient on this one. There is a lot of incorrect information > reference these two forms > > > Hi John, > Thanks for confirming this, brother :'-( > > > > and we will be sending out a clarification to this list later this morning > with exact details of each form. > > > Great! > ...i look forward to obtaining authoritative insights :-) > > Shalom, > --sb. > > > > Thanks, > John S. > > From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net > <mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net>> on behalf of Tom Fantacone > <t...@iptrading.com <mailto:t...@iptrading.com>> > Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:57 AM > To: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com <mailto:absc...@gmail.com>> > Cc: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation > Requirement for 8.5.5 > > I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently > optional. Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however. > > > > ---- On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:58:21 -0400 Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com > <mailto:absc...@gmail.com>> wrote --- > > > > [...] > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards ! > __ > baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure > <https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure>> > Subscribe to Mailing List: <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/ > <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/>> > __ > #LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! > #Amen!» > #MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement > «Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire > après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2) > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net > <mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact i...@arin.net <mailto:i...@arin.net> if you experience any > issues.
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