>>>has shades of Mandu >From mandu , you have come to the shades of Mandu...
>>>Do you need more authoritative statement on this. Yes, because, under what context he said so and what part did he say that it is Mandu..What I could recollect is that song has shades of Raaga Bouli also. Swapnil and other Classical Gurus can throw light here...I am a classical illiterate... >>>people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have > given some thought to it. They are simply enjoying our heated conversation...tell me one guy who is supporting you with the same falsified conviction that you have...I have received mails personally from many here regarding this issue... >>>Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called Malkouns) Correct...Thats great again. >>>Why did he need to use that tune when other music directors have been using this RAGA in > different style (i mean in Hindustani and Carnatic) > and created beautiful tunes.. Where did he use the same tune...? the whole song is entirely different from the suprabhaatham...isn't it?..ARR used that suprabhatham tune in the prelude and one part of interlude because the whole situation starts on a fine morning and the heroine sets out free, meaning its anew pleasant morning for her. tell me if ARR had intended to actually copy it, did he do it in such a way on an obviously ever popular tune?....Ingeyum Logic odhaikkudhu....Madila ganam irundhaa than manasula bhayam irukkum...ARR used that tune as it is because, it was only supposed to be used like that...ithukku per thaan improvisation...just like how IR used "mudhakaraatha modakam" sloka tune into "varaadhu vandha naayagan" song for one of parthiban-Kushboo-Rupini film(I forgot the films name)...Atleast there the actual song will resemble the sloka tune, but here in the case of May Madam...no way man... Bye Karthik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!! > > > Karthik, > > . Anjali.. Anjali.. in the > charanam has shades of Mandu... and this has also been > told by SPB in a programme (forget about me, as I am > just a drop in the ocean of carnatic music) on Kairali > called "Symphony" which comes every saturday night at > 9:00PM. He told the strength of Rahman lies in the > usage of this Raga and that's why he told both the > songs in this file (Duet) are based on Raga Mandu..." > Do you need more authoritative statement on this. > > It's good that you are allowing me to express my > views because there's some truth in it which you only > are denying and people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have > given some thought to it. > > I am sure people are going to realize one day or > the other and truth obviously cannot be suppressed. > > Naan onnu Vidwan innu sollikkaleye... though my > knowledge of carnatic music is good, i cannot call > myself an expert.. and for your kind information and > whatever knowledge I have "margazhi poove..." song is > based on Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called > Malkouns). Why did he need to use that tune when > other music directors have been using this RAGA in > different style (i mean in Hindustani and Carnatic) > and created beautiful tunes.. > > > > Pavana > > --- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You are a desperate fan of a drowning > > MD...right...anyway...my duty is to > > enlighten you with facts... > > > > >>>I have learnt carnatic classical music > > Thing is you should learn it even better when you > > put on facts... > > > > Anjali..Anjali belongs to Raaga .."Behag" a > > Hindustani raaga...where is > > Mandu there? Do you know the song "Humko man ki > > shakthi dena" song from "do > > aakhen Baarah Haath"...its a famous film and the > > song is also based on > > Behag...AGAIN A MIS-FIRE.. > > > > >>>This is forum where one can express his views > > > > True ..that is why you are still expressing what you > > alone thing is a > > genuine opinion...HAs the moderator ever interfered > > in your blabbers...The > > moderator of your camp would have by now issued a > > fatwa....if such an > > argument e vr even creeped in his group about his > > MD...We are no Talibans > > here...You are welcome to question...but remember > > for any thing there is a > > limit...when in rain if a jackal looses its colour > > of a tiger...then you > > know what will happen to it. > > > > >>>nobody can deny it because it is so evident.. > > Only to you...Has anybody agreed to you...Gather > > few of your camp men who > > are in disguise here to come in support of you...In > > a country of such a > > large population (4500+ members) we can expects few > > black sheeps. > > > > >>>but did he not copy the tune of "kausalya > > supraja rama..." > > > > This is the height of comedy ever...It is quite > > obvious that the tune is > > infact the suprabhatham....why...because...The > > heroine in the film..gets > > introduced with that song in the morning...its a new > > day for her where she > > hopes to get free from her strict home..Dear > > Genius!!! don't you see the > > actual song is no where near the tune of > > suprabhatham...Thiru Carnatic > > Vidhwaan avargale...can you tell me in which raaga > > it is composed? > > > > >>>If you don't agree with it so be it... the fact > > is he has lifted > > > > A cat assume that the world is dark and everybody is > > blind because it has > > closed its eyes....You are in that CATegory. > > > > Take a pill of Amlodac.to pacify your high blood > > pressure and a couple of > > tea spoon of Digene to control you acidity...Then > > come back to your desktop > > to reply again...Health is every important....ARR > > hatred should not > > deteriorate one's heath.....ARR himself is very > > particular about it. > > > > Regards, > > Karthik > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy > > of Sowkkiyama song!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > For your kind information I have learnt > > carnatic > > > classical music and don't try to teach me. First > > of > > > all let me tell you one thing... Even Anjali > > Anjali... > > > and Kathale en Kathale song from Duet also is > > based on > > > Mandu only. Then how come those songs are not > > similar > > > to Sowkkiyama song... Please analyze completely > > > before you talk non-sense.. This is forum where > > one > > > can express his views and if somebody has copied > > we > > > need to agree... nobody can deny it because it is > > so > > > evident.. > > > > > > I don't know whether ARR sat whole night to > > get > > > inspired or not... but did he not copy the tune of > > > "kausalya supraja rama..." from Suprabhatam in > > > "Margazhi Poove..." from movie "May madham"... So > > why > > > he has to copy that.. Because it is popular... In > > the > > > same way he would have copied/lifted these tunes > > > also. > > > > > > If you don't agree with it so be it... the > > fact is he has lifted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. 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