Manaf,
Obviously you didnt know that ARR was initially supposed to do Sawariya. And
not all
music in the world is good music. Sawariya does have some and I dont see any
harm
in discussing good music.
Gomzy
On 9/27/07, Abdul Manaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So we shall expect many critizism from this group. Now critics are
> getting mejority in this group. If discussion about other MD's songs
> welcomes here, why did only saawariya happen? Bhansali didn't work with
> arr. Then wats the importance they seen in his movies? In india there only
> one genius, bhansali?? Others are useless?? There are many mucisians in
> india. As music is an ocean they can discuss about every album in this
> group. When ARR's "tiny drops" happening if they are
> interested, they shall join the discussion. I didn't expect this type of
> statement from the moderator.
>
> Thulasi Ram wrote:
> > 1st paragraph - agreed 2nd paragraph - out of focus for me 3rd
> paragraph: ARR's music is still a tiny drop in a mighty ocean??? mmmmmmm...
> i think if this thread continues there will be lot of pale but strong
> criticisms like this. now this is one from the moderator. cant believe whats
> happening here...
> > if ARRs music by itself is a tiny drop how can we categorize other
> musicians? never ending debate for which ending this thread would be a great
> suggestion. On 9/26/07,
> > Gopal Srinivasan < [EMAIL PROTECTED] com > wrote:
> > Both sides of the divide have a right to exist but some tolerance of the
> other view is necessary here.
> > If ARR's fans are snobs or not is up for debate, but the reaction to
> Saawariya is certainly not coming out of insecurity. The music has received
> mixed reviews with many known aficionados of music not taking to it kindly.
> I, for one, thought Omkara was the best soundtrack of last year, even ahead
> of Rang De Basanti and there is no shame in admitting it. ARR did so
> himself.
> > And everyone is free to choose what they want to listen to but I am
> certain that ARR wouldn't put the craftsman ahead of the craft. ARR's music
> is still a tiny drop in a mighty ocean.
> > ----- Original Message ---- From: Roshan <roshan.ravi@ gmail.com > To:
> > arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007
> 6:52:36 AM Subject: Re: [arr] My last rambling on Saawariya
> > may be we all put a filter in our emails so anything pertaining to other
> musicians or music directors will be deleted :p. how about that ? or even
> better.. a special kind of ear-plug that will filter out all kinds of music
> except rahman's :)
> > On 9/26/07, Chord < [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> > > wrote:
> > Um, excuse me.....
> > Please kindly show me the words that I used in your reference to
> > "forcing my opinions on others". I expressed my opinions assertively,
> > but never did I once say that everyone has to agree with me or that
> > not liking Saawariya is wrong. I said that I have a hard time
> > understanding why some think it's boring, but I am understanding this
> > viewpoint more and more now and I accept it. The rest of the world
> > can hate this album and I will still love it and have no problem with
> > that. You guys are so insecure. And you are also incorrect in
> > assuming that Saawariya is the best album this year for me. I said it
> > was probably in my top 3.
> > Give it a rest guys. I want to move on.
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com , $*$ PaVaN $*$ <pawancumarr@ ...>
>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thulsi, i dont think hes new to the group..watever. .Mr.Chord, no need
> > to baffle,no need to think too much,we all accept your view and your
> > opinion that saawariya is the best album for you this year,but dont
> > try to force your opinion on others...thts wat you are doing....pls
> > stop that..
> >>
> >> Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: if u r here to say
> > something about other MD's albums alone, then this is not the right
> > place. u seem to be new to the group. let me see what u write when an
> > ARR album releases. m saying this to u because there r few in this
> > group who mail/reply only when there is a non-arr topic or speaking
> > about other MD's.. so, let me not jump upon u now as i think u havent
> > been here when an ARR album is released. let me see what ur take for
> > JA is...
> >>
> >> On 9/26/07, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Different
> > opinions will be abound. Saawariya is quickly turning into
> >> a top 3 favorite this year along with Guru and Eklavya. One person's
> >> boring and tedious is another person's haunting, soulful, enchanting,
> >> and soothing. It just baffles me how so many of you find this
> >> soundtrack boring and tedious, while acknowledging some hangovers and
> >> similar sounding songs. There is a lot of quiet space in this
> >> soundtrack, which I find so refreshing. There is so much beautiful
> >> music, crisp arrangements, delicate ornamentation, soothing melodies,
> >> haunting alaaps, ethnic sounds, subtle soundscapes. I agree there are
> >> weaknesses, but it seems that most are ignoring the hard work put into
> >> this soundtrack by a relatively debutant MD. As a music composer
> >> myself, I can empathize and relate very well how difficult it is to
> >> live up to expectations. It's got to be tough when you have an
> >> egotistical director like SLB constantly nosing his weight and
> >> influence on his music preferences. Saawariya to me has an enchanting
> >> old world charm to its sound and very raaga based with poignant
> >> melodies, and while I agree that there may not be many takers due to
> >> this, it's what makes this soundtrack special amidst an overabundance
> >> of noisy, massala, rhythm oriented soundtracks. Thank goodness for
> >> soundtracks like Saawariya the remind us of the soulful and soothing
> >> side to good music, and pay some tribute to the old world evergreen
> > era.
> >>
> >> Final suggestion: Listen to Saawariya on headphones to hear the
> >> delicate arrangements.
> >>
> >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com , Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ARR's music does not exist in vacuum. It is worthwhile to be aware
> >> of and compare it with other musical output.
> >> >
> >> > That having been said, Saawariya, IMHO, suffers from more than a
> >> small hangover of previous SLB movies and makes for a tedious listen
> >> beyond 2-3 songs.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> > From: Chord <purevibz@>
> >> > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:06:52 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [arr] (non arr) Music of Saawariya is mindblowing
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Why does talking about non ARR music bother you? When I
> >> appreciate
> >> >
> >> > good music, whether from ARR or others, I like to share my thoughts
> >> >
> >> > with other music lovers in this group. It's one thing if someone
> >> >
> >> > talked about non ARR stuff all the time, but I just posted my
> >> >
> >> > opinions about a soundtrack that I think is quality, others agree or
> >> >
> >> > not. This is exactly what bothers me about this group of late...lack
> >> >
> >> > of tolerance for other MD music and bashing other MDs needlessly. Are
>
> >> >
> >> > some ARR fans that insecure?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Brijram" <brig96m1214@ ...>
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > Rahman has passed this phase ages ago. We do not need non arr in
> >> >
> >> > this
> >> >
> >> > > group!!! Restrict either to arr or semi arr.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > BA
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > > On 9/25/07, Chord <purevibz@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > >
> >> >
> >> > > > > It ranks up there in the league of elite soundtracks. Very
> >> >
> >> > > soothing
> >> >
> >> > > > > and melodious soundtrack with lots of classical influences and
> >> >
> >> > > > > beautiful arrangements and instrumental ornaments. No heavy
> >> >
> >> > beats
> >> >
> >> > > or
> >> >
> >> > > > > real item numbers. The arrangements are not very thickly
> >> >
> >> > layered,
> >> >
> >> > > but
> >> >
> >> > > > > they are crafted extremely delicately and woven briliantly. I
> >> >
> >> > > think
> >> >
> >> > > > > ARR himself would like this soundtrack a lot. Only weakness to
> >> >
> >> > me
> >> >
> >> > > is
> >> >
> >> > > > > that a few songs are very similar to songs from SLBs previous
> >> >
> >> > > movies.
> >> >
> >> > > > > Lyrics are also quite simple by comparison. To me, however,
> it's
> >> >
> >> > > > > mostly a very refreshing and quite stylish and very
> >> >
> >> > > soothing/romantic
> >> >
> >> > > > > soundtrack. If you're a lover of real quality music, this album
>
> >> >
> >> > > is a
> >> >
> >> > > > > must have.
> >> >
> >> > > > >
> >> >
> >> > > > >
> >> >
> >> > > > >
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > > > --
> >> >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > > > Gomtesh V Upadhye
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > >
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