Oh my God...Who is telling you to accept? Is no freedom of speech? I think
its safe to voice
your opinion until you try enforce it on some one. guys grow up.
Gomzy
On 9/27/07, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rahman himself has given that statement 'My music is still a tiny drop
> in a mighty ocean'... that is his humbleness, he only can make that
> statement, that's why we are dedicated fans to not only for his music, but
> also for his philosophy towards life.
>
> But why we will accept others telling that for Rahman??? If one fine day
> some musician is telling the same about Rahman will you accept? Then why we
> will accept similar statement from common ppl/fans???
>
> Arijit
>
>
> On 26/09/2007, Amith Chandhran <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Was just imagining if AR himself says 'My music is still a tiny drop
> > in a mighty ocean'; what would be the reactions here? As it is his opinion,
> > probably everyone would agree! Then why jump on someone if they opine
> > something similar?
> >
> > Just pointing it out. No offense meant. Thanks.
> > --
> >
> > On 9/27/07, Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > 1st paragraph - agreed
> > >
> > > 2nd paragraph - out of focus for me
> > >
> > > 3rd paragraph: ARR's music is still a tiny drop in a mighty ocean???
> > >
> > > mmmmmmm... i think if this thread continues there will be lot of pale
> > > but strong criticisms like this. now this is one from the moderator. cant
> > > believe whats happening here...
> > >
> > > if ARRs music by itself is a tiny drop how can we categorize other
> > > musicians? never ending debate for which ending this thread would be a
> > > great
> > > suggestion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/26/07, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Both sides of the divide have a right to exist but some tolerance
> > > > of the other view is necessary here.
> > > >
> > > > If ARR's fans are snobs or not is up for debate, but the reaction to
> > > > Saawariya is certainly not coming out of insecurity. The music has
> > > > received
> > > > mixed reviews with many known aficionados of music not taking to it
> > > > kindly.
> > > > I, for one, thought Omkara was the best soundtrack of last year, even
> > > > ahead
> > > > of Rang De Basanti and there is no shame in admitting it. ARR did so
> > > > himself.
> > > >
> > > > And everyone is free to choose what they want to listen to but I am
> > > > certain that ARR wouldn't put the craftsman ahead of the craft. ARR's
> > > > music
> > > > is still a tiny drop in a mighty ocean.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Roshan <roshan.ravi@ gmail.com>
> > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:52:36 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [arr] My last rambling on Saawariya
> > > >
> > > > may be we all put a filter in our emails so anything pertaining to
> > > > other musicians or music directors will be deleted :p. how about that ?
> > > >
> > > > or even better.. a special kind of ear-plug that will filter out all
> > > > kinds of music except rahman's :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/26/07, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Um, excuse me.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Please kindly show me the words that I used in your reference to
> > > > > "forcing my opinions on others". I expressed my opinions
> > > > > assertively,
> > > > > but never did I once say that everyone has to agree with me or
> > > > > that
> > > > > not liking Saawariya is wrong. I said that I have a hard time
> > > > > understanding why some think it's boring, but I am understanding
> > > > > this
> > > > > viewpoint more and more now and I accept it. The rest of the world
> > > > > can hate this album and I will still love it and have no problem
> > > > > with
> > > > > that. You guys are so insecure. And you are also incorrect in
> > > > > assuming that Saawariya is the best album this year for me. I said
> > > > > it
> > > > > was probably in my top 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > Give it a rest guys. I want to move on.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > $*$ PaVaN $*$ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thulsi, i dont think hes new to the group..watever..Mr.Chord,no
> > > > > need
> > > > > to baffle,no need to think too much,we all accept your view and
> > > > > your
> > > > > opinion that saawariya is the best album for you this year,but
> > > > > dont
> > > > > try to force your opinion on others...thts wat you are
> > > > > doing....pls
> > > > > stop that..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if u r here to say
> > > > > something about other MD's albums alone, then this is not the
> > > > > right
> > > > > place. u seem to be new to the group. let me see what u write when
> > > > > an
> > > > > ARR album releases. m saying this to u because there r few in this
> > > > > group who mail/reply only when there is a non-arr topic or
> > > > > speaking
> > > > > about other MD's.. so, let me not jump upon u now as i think u
> > > > > havent
> > > > > been here when an ARR album is released. let me see what ur take
> > > > > for
> > > > > JA is...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/26/07, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Different
> > > > >
> > > > > opinions will be abound. Saawariya is quickly turning into
> > > > > > a top 3 favorite this year along with Guru and Eklavya. One
> > > > > person's
> > > > > > boring and tedious is another person's haunting, soulful,
> > > > > enchanting,
> > > > > > and soothing. It just baffles me how so many of you find this
> > > > > > soundtrack boring and tedious, while acknowledging some
> > > > > hangovers and
> > > > > > similar sounding songs. There is a lot of quiet space in this
> > > > > > soundtrack, which I find so refreshing. There is so much
> > > > > beautiful
> > > > > > music, crisp arrangements, delicate ornamentation, soothing
> > > > > melodies,
> > > > > > haunting alaaps, ethnic sounds, subtle soundscapes. I agree
> > > > > there are
> > > > > > weaknesses, but it seems that most are ignoring the hard work
> > > > > put into
> > > > > > this soundtrack by a relatively debutant MD. As a music composer
> > > > > > myself, I can empathize and relate very well how difficult it is
> > > > > to
> > > > > > live up to expectations. It's got to be tough when you have an
> > > > > > egotistical director like SLB constantly nosing his weight and
> > > > > > influence on his music preferences. Saawariya to me has an
> > > > > enchanting
> > > > > > old world charm to its sound and very raaga based with poignant
> > > > > > melodies, and while I agree that there may not be many takers
> > > > > due to
> > > > > > this, it's what makes this soundtrack special amidst an
> > > > > overabundance
> > > > > > of noisy, massala, rhythm oriented soundtracks. Thank goodness
> > > > > for
> > > > > > soundtracks like Saawariya the remind us of the soulful and
> > > > > soothing
> > > > > > side to good music, and pay some tribute to the old world
> > > > > evergreen
> > > > > era.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Final suggestion: Listen to Saawariya on headphones to hear the
> > > > > > delicate arrangements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ARR's music does not exist in vacuum. It is worthwhile to be
> > > > > aware
> > > > > > of and compare it with other musical output.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That having been said, Saawariya, IMHO, suffers from more than
> > > > > a
> > > > > > small hangover of previous SLB movies and makes for a tedious
> > > > > listen
> > > > > > beyond 2-3 songs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > > > From: Chord <purevibz@>
> > > > > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:06:52 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [arr] (non arr) Music of Saawariya is mindblowing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why does talking about non ARR music bother you? When I
> > > > > > appreciate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > good music, whether from ARR or others, I like to share my
> > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > with other music lovers in this group. It's one thing if
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > talked about non ARR stuff all the time, but I just posted my
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > opinions about a soundtrack that I think is quality, others
> > > > > agree or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not. This is exactly what bothers me about this group of
> > > > > late...lack
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > of tolerance for other MD music and bashing other MDs
> > > > > needlessly. Are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > some ARR fans that insecure?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Brijram" <brig96m1214@
> > > > > ...>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rahman has passed this phase ages ago. We do not need non
> > > > > arr in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > group!!! Restrict either to arr or semi arr.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 9/25/07, Chord <purevibz@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It ranks up there in the league of elite soundtracks.
> > > > > Very
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > soothing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > and melodious soundtrack with lots of classical
> > > > > influences and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > beautiful arrangements and instrumental ornaments. No
> > > > > heavy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > beats
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > real item numbers. The arrangements are not very thickly
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > layered,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > they are crafted extremely delicately and woven
> > > > > briliantly. I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ARR himself would like this soundtrack a lot. Only
> > > > > weakness to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > that a few songs are very similar to songs from SLBs
> > > > > previous
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > movies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Lyrics are also quite simple by comparison. To me,
> > > > > however, it's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > mostly a very refreshing and quite stylish and very
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > soothing/romantic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > soundtrack. If you're a lover of real quality music,
> > > > > this album
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > must have.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gomtesh V Upadhye
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