Great Idea Neena and a very thoughtful one too. Hope this reaches ARR or he already has this mind.
On Jan 31, 2008 5:35 AM, neena kochhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Neena and Raghu: I think above, I answered your interests and concerns > regarding the request to start our own journal on ARR's music. Yes, Gops is > already doing so much for this group and we can't ask any more of him. I > think we just need to organize our resources already flowing through this > forum and make them easily available and accessible to the thousands of fans > who are a part of this group. I'm sure that would be something we can do > fairly easily". > Dear Dasum > > First of all I woud like to thank you for reading my e-mail and responding > to it. Many a times I've posted but I observed and felt that no one ever > reads my mails since generally there was no response to them although the > same thread by some else was responded to. Oh no, now I am not complaining > but as I just mentioned it is a mere observation and feeling. > > Secondly, I was off to a very important work meeting just after I replied > to the e-mail about the journal. Let me clarify - I still believe that > producing a Journal of music is a fantastic idea. Since ARR is opening the > School ( I reiterate, I prefer the term Academy) of music, he (ARR) (or > others working with him) could perhaps get in touch with a publisher who > would be willing to publish this Journal (monthly like other journals). It > will have articles on music and in that a section of readers letters which > could include articles like your e-mail that many have responded to. The > Journal would be on the line of for example: > > Journal of Experimental psychology > Journal of Indoor Air > Journal of Food Science and Technology > and so on > > Its like Acedemia (ARR music School) and Publications going hand in hand. > > In this Journal (which could also be available on line - e-Journal).... > > Various people in the music industry both in India and Abroad would > contribute articles which will give insight to various aspects of music.... > > It would have latest newsrelated to the music circle, e.g. technology and > software developments.... > > It would include a jobs section that could advertise jobs and this section > would generate revenue.... > > It will have other general advertiement section, e.g music shops, > intrument rpair shops... again to generate income..... > > It would include information on seminars and lectures, workshops etc on > music which people could attend free and /or by payment depending upon the > nature of the talks... > > Poepe would of course have to buy the journal which again will generate > income. He is an international figure and I am confident that people > outside India would read and subscribe to the journal. > > I don't expect any one in this group to write this journal but I just > wondered and wanted that perhaps those who are close to ARR suggest it to > ARR and let him decide. His Music school is no mean feat and documentation > survives the test of times. A journal on these lines will/could immortalise > the teachings and open door to musical knowledge. > > Perhaps I am being naive here but as I not in India I don't know if such > journals already exist and if they do how well do they do. > > I hope what I have written makes more sense now after this brief > explanation above. > > Keep up the good work. > > Regards > > Neena > > > > > *Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Dear Rahmaniacs, > > First of all, let me say I'm humbled by all the wonderful responses you > have sent. I have saved each and every one of them and thought I'd use one > email to respond to all of you. > > Anand: Yes, being in touch with your own spirit and its connectivity to > all of life is the key to reaching higher consciousness - it is really about > self-awareness. There is so much beauty to be experienced at each higher > level and we need profound minds like Mozart and ARR, who push us > subconsciously through their music and Einstein and Tolstoy, who illuminate > the true nature of our universe and humanity to help us reach those levels > consciously. > > Dinesh: I will try to post some of my feelings on ARR and his music in the > future as and when I find the time. I have always been grateful to Gopal and > this forum, which when I joined had less than 200 fans, for giving me the > opportunity to share the wealth of feelings that ARR had inculcated in me > through his music first, then through his personality and thoughts. I'm > happy to have woken you up from your slumber: as Kailash Kher says - Jaago! > :) > > Padmini: The song I analyzed was Uyirum Neeye and not Kehna Hai Kya. Since > there are so many new members here, I will re-post it. Perhaps, I need to > load articles like these in a shared location in the group so that fans can > read it at their leisure. I would love to have Swapnil's musical reviews in > one place if possible too. As I always experience at work, good ideas just > come and go because we don't store them in anything else, but emails, which > are really hard to manage. > > Neena and Raghu: I think above, I answered your interests and concerns > regarding the request to start our own journal on ARR's music. Yes, Gops is > already doing so much for this group and we can't ask any more of him. I > think we just need to organize our resources already flowing through this > forum and make them easily available and accessible to the thousands of fans > who are a part of this group. I'm sure that would be something we can do > fairly easily. > > Gomzy: I think your point is fair regarding the lack of originality, but I > used the word in the sense of innovativativeness more than genuineness. I > doubt I will ever have to question ARR's sincerity. > > Siraj, Suresh, Krishna Kumar, Vithur, Chord, Avinash, Shanavas, Durbha and > all: thank you again for your kind comments, they'll help me stay motivated > to write more of these, and before that, finish this one! :) > > Like some director once said (forget who exactly it was), ARR is like an > ocean..so calm and so deep. If we can explore how much creativity is > conjured up by him in those moments of spontaneous revelation, which I feel > is what he experiences, we can grow a little deeper than we are now, achieve > a little more awareness of ourselves and the world around us. If I can help > in that quest by writing these articles, then that will be my gift to ARR. > > Take care and thanks again, > Dasun > > > ------------------------------ > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:41:40 +0000 > Subject: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment > > So well and rightly said. It was a sheer bliss reading your write-up! > Thank you so much for this wonderul post. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Aesthetic Judgment (Taste) > > > > I don't have to tell you that ARR's taste is of the highest > possible kind compared with composers of all time. I mean how many > composers the world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared > to the ideal of Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the > kings of melody of the West – Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music > (59) fame) Sir Francis Lai (Love Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. > Zhivago (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone, who have written some of > the most soulful and moving music I have ever heard, have been told > they are like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge. Most music > lovers, and all great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein among > them, have acknowledged unanimously that Mozart's music is the most > perfect and the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word > conjured, by any human being; because imagination, to many, could > still mean there's some conscious involvement in that process of > creation; perhaps, it is still a conscious process, but it is a far > superior sense of consciousness that, by average human standards, it > cannot be called one. If anybody here has seen the Oscar-winning > movie Amadeus (84) by Milos Forman, you can see why it is so: > Mozart's music, to use a phrase Einstein once used, seems like have > simply been `plucked out of the universe'; the great scientist who > adored Mozart and used to play his Sonatas on his little violin when > he wanted a break from his scientific pursuits, says that compared to > Mozart, Beethoven's music feels `too personal, almost naked.' > Tolstoy, in his polemical book `What is Art?' destroys the kind of > conscious creativity that he believes Beethoven and the followers of > the Romantic movement that he charted, Richard Wagner, for example, > brought about to Europe, overthrowing the musical dominance of the > spontaneous and universal music of Mozart. > > > > In essence, Mozart's music and its perfection are not a result of > conscious processing, they come from a superior sense of natural > harmony and an extremely rare capability of letting go of one's self > and connecting with the universal spirit and listening to it in all > its infinite beauty. There cannot be a more fitting description of > ARR's music and how he has conjured his magical output over the > years; and it is no accident that the West would offer up their ideal > for comparison with the best the East has offered to date. That sort > of taste, a sincere kinship with the natural harmony and beauty of > the universe, with God, if you will, years in an industry cannot fade > away or dilute, and, if anything, I can confidently say that ARR's > taste has, over the years, been refined like fine old wine, and I > have not witnessed an instance where his aesthetic judgment, given > the proper opportunities, has faltered beyond identification. In his > choice of movies, directors, and lyrics, there maybe exceptions, but > I will address these in a later category. > > > > It is difficult to pin down one or two works from the 92-96 period > in which, like Rano said, beauty oozed out of every single phrase > that he weaved, but I will pick two of my favorite songs `Kannalane' > from Bombay (95) and `Uyirum Neeye' from Pavitra (94) in which I > think ARR achieves the highest form of perfection. Sometime back, I > analyzed the beauty of the song Uyirum Neeye from a conceptual > viewpoint, so if anybody is interested, let me know and I will send > it to you or post it on the forum. Kannalane (or Kehna Hai Kya), I > hear, has entered the music textbooks in certain parts of the world > (Canada, if I recall correctly)! Yes, these are songs of superior > beauty that they have that universal appeal that Tolstoy hailed as > the finest ingredient of the greatest of art. > > > > What about now? What are the ARR compositions within the past 5 > years which evoke the same feelings in me? Piya Ho from Water (2005) > and Do Kadam from Meenaxi (2004) for sure are my favorites from this > period with Tere Bina from Guru not too far off. When I refer to the > perfection of these songs, I mean that I don't feel that I need to > remove any part, any phrase, any instrument, sound or note, > everything is in the right place at the right time! If anybody felt > differently about these songs, I would be curious to know which parts > destroy the perfection of these songs. I can write an essay on the > song Do Kadam and will do soon so that I can back up my feelings just > like I did with Uyirum Neeye. Do Kadam is so personal for me that I > don't want to hold it up as universal! This song symbolizes what ARR > and I share in silence without speaking a single word with each- > other, but by connecting to the same universal spirit that we both > trust wholeheartedly and by whose mysterious ways we are awed day in > and day out. The highest taste, as Immanuel Kant defines it, is > always subjective, but universal, and it will always flow from God > and only God; Not only is ARR connected with Him, he can articulate > His beauty with such ease and finesse that it brings many a tear to > my eye thinking how much of my faith I owe to ARR; Even as I share > this very personal story with you, I can feel a warm tear roll down > my cheek. Now if that's not beauty, I don't know what is. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. 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