:-) :-) Hi Shah Navas Thank you for posting replies... I'd even forgotton that I had written 'feelings or observations' . It was about midnight when I wrote the message and forgot to mention (as we all know) that Journals are on subscriptions, need editors plus reviewers and so on. But from the posts in the group I note that the members are very knowledgeable so it didn't matter if I missed a few things related to Journals. Neena
Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh no... I did not reply to that 'feeling or observation'. It was purely instinctive. :) On Jan 31, 2008 9:52 PM, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Great Idea Neena and a very thoughtful one too. Hope this reaches ARR or he already has this mind. On Jan 31, 2008 5:35 AM, neena kochhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Neena and Raghu: I think above, I answered your interests and concerns regarding the request to start our own journal on ARR's music. Yes, Gops is already doing so much for this group and we can't ask any more of him. I think we just need to organize our resources already flowing through this forum and make them easily available and accessible to the thousands of fans who are a part of this group. I'm sure that would be something we can do fairly easily". Dear Dasum First of all I woud like to thank you for reading my e-mail and responding to it. Many a times I've posted but I observed and felt that no one ever reads my mails since generally there was no response to them although the same thread by some else was responded to. Oh no, now I am not complaining but as I just mentioned it is a mere observation and feeling. Secondly, I was off to a very important work meeting just after I replied to the e-mail about the journal. Let me clarify - I still believe that producing a Journal of music is a fantastic idea. Since ARR is opening the School ( I reiterate, I prefer the term Academy) of music, he (ARR) (or others working with him) could perhaps get in touch with a publisher who would be willing to publish this Journal (monthly like other journals). It will have articles on music and in that a section of readers letters which could include articles like your e-mail that many have responded to. The Journal would be on the line of for example: Journal of Experimental psychology Journal of Indoor Air Journal of Food Science and Technology and so on Its like Acedemia (ARR music School) and Publications going hand in hand. In this Journal (which could also be available on line - e-Journal).... Various people in the music industry both in India and Abroad would contribute articles which will give insight to various aspects of music.... It would have latest newsrelated to the music circle, e.g. technology and software developments.... It would include a jobs section that could advertise jobs and this section would generate revenue.... It will have other general advertiement section, e.g music shops, intrument rpair shops... again to generate income..... It would include information on seminars and lectures, workshops etc on music which people could attend free and /or by payment depending upon the nature of the talks... Poepe would of course have to buy the journal which again will generate income. He is an international figure and I am confident that people outside India would read and subscribe to the journal. I don't expect any one in this group to write this journal but I just wondered and wanted that perhaps those who are close to ARR suggest it to ARR and let him decide. His Music school is no mean feat and documentation survives the test of times. A journal on these lines will/could immortalise the teachings and open door to musical knowledge. Perhaps I am being naive here but as I not in India I don't know if such journals already exist and if they do how well do they do. I hope what I have written makes more sense now after this brief explanation above. Keep up the good work. Regards Neena Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Rahmaniacs, First of all, let me say I'm humbled by all the wonderful responses you have sent. I have saved each and every one of them and thought I'd use one email to respond to all of you. Anand: Yes, being in touch with your own spirit and its connectivity to all of life is the key to reaching higher consciousness - it is really about self-awareness. There is so much beauty to be experienced at each higher level and we need profound minds like Mozart and ARR, who push us subconsciously through their music and Einstein and Tolstoy, who illuminate the true nature of our universe and humanity to help us reach those levels consciously. Dinesh: I will try to post some of my feelings on ARR and his music in the future as and when I find the time. I have always been grateful to Gopal and this forum, which when I joined had less than 200 fans, for giving me the opportunity to share the wealth of feelings that ARR had inculcated in me through his music first, then through his personality and thoughts. I'm happy to have woken you up from your slumber: as Kailash Kher says - Jaago! :) Padmini: The song I analyzed was Uyirum Neeye and not Kehna Hai Kya. Since there are so many new members here, I will re-post it. Perhaps, I need to load articles like these in a shared location in the group so that fans can read it at their leisure. I would love to have Swapnil's musical reviews in one place if possible too. As I always experience at work, good ideas just come and go because we don't store them in anything else, but emails, which are really hard to manage. Neena and Raghu: I think above, I answered your interests and concerns regarding the request to start our own journal on ARR's music. Yes, Gops is already doing so much for this group and we can't ask any more of him. I think we just need to organize our resources already flowing through this forum and make them easily available and accessible to the thousands of fans who are a part of this group. I'm sure that would be something we can do fairly easily. Gomzy: I think your point is fair regarding the lack of originality, but I used the word in the sense of innovativativeness more than genuineness. I doubt I will ever have to question ARR's sincerity. Siraj, Suresh, Krishna Kumar, Vithur, Chord, Avinash, Shanavas, Durbha and all: thank you again for your kind comments, they'll help me stay motivated to write more of these, and before that, finish this one! :) Like some director once said (forget who exactly it was), ARR is like an ocean..so calm and so deep. If we can explore how much creativity is conjured up by him in those moments of spontaneous revelation, which I feel is what he experiences, we can grow a little deeper than we are now, achieve a little more awareness of ourselves and the world around us. If I can help in that quest by writing these articles, then that will be my gift to ARR. Take care and thanks again, Dasun --------------------------------- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:41:40 +0000 Subject: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment So well and rightly said. It was a sheer bliss reading your write-up! Thank you so much for this wonderul post. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Aesthetic Judgment (Taste) > > I don't have to tell you that ARR's taste is of the highest possible kind compared with composers of all time. I mean how many composers the world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared to the ideal of Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the kings of melody of the West Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music (59) fame) Sir Francis Lai (Love Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. Zhivago (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone, who have written some of the most soulful and moving music I have ever heard, have been told they are like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge. Most music lovers, and all great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein among them, have acknowledged unanimously that Mozart's music is the most perfect and the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word conjured, by any human being; because imagination, to many, could still mean there's some conscious involvement in that process of creation; perhaps, it is still a conscious process, but it is a far superior sense of consciousness that, by average human standards, it cannot be called one. If anybody here has seen the Oscar-winning movie Amadeus (84) by Milos Forman, you can see why it is so: Mozart's music, to use a phrase Einstein once used, seems like have simply been `plucked out of the universe'; the great scientist who adored Mozart and used to play his Sonatas on his little violin when he wanted a break from his scientific pursuits, says that compared to Mozart, Beethoven's music feels `too personal, almost naked.' Tolstoy, in his polemical book `What is Art?' destroys the kind of conscious creativity that he believes Beethoven and the followers of the Romantic movement that he charted, Richard Wagner, for example, brought about to Europe, overthrowing the musical dominance of the spontaneous and universal music of Mozart. > > In essence, Mozart's music and its perfection are not a result of conscious processing, they come from a superior sense of natural harmony and an extremely rare capability of letting go of one's self and connecting with the universal spirit and listening to it in all its infinite beauty. There cannot be a more fitting description of ARR's music and how he has conjured his magical output over the years; and it is no accident that the West would offer up their ideal for comparison with the best the East has offered to date. That sort of taste, a sincere kinship with the natural harmony and beauty of the universe, with God, if you will, years in an industry cannot fade away or dilute, and, if anything, I can confidently say that ARR's taste has, over the years, been refined like fine old wine, and I have not witnessed an instance where his aesthetic judgment, given the proper opportunities, has faltered beyond identification. In his choice of movies, directors, and lyrics, there maybe exceptions, but I will address these in a later category. > > It is difficult to pin down one or two works from the 92-96 period in which, like Rano said, beauty oozed out of every single phrase that he weaved, but I will pick two of my favorite songs `Kannalane' from Bombay (95) and `Uyirum Neeye' from Pavitra (94) in which I think ARR achieves the highest form of perfection. Sometime back, I analyzed the beauty of the song Uyirum Neeye from a conceptual viewpoint, so if anybody is interested, let me know and I will send it to you or post it on the forum. Kannalane (or Kehna Hai Kya), I hear, has entered the music textbooks in certain parts of the world (Canada, if I recall correctly)! Yes, these are songs of superior beauty that they have that universal appeal that Tolstoy hailed as the finest ingredient of the greatest of art. > > What about now? What are the ARR compositions within the past 5 years which evoke the same feelings in me? Piya Ho from Water (2005) and Do Kadam from Meenaxi (2004) for sure are my favorites from this period with Tere Bina from Guru not too far off. When I refer to the perfection of these songs, I mean that I don't feel that I need to remove any part, any phrase, any instrument, sound or note, everything is in the right place at the right time! If anybody felt differently about these songs, I would be curious to know which parts destroy the perfection of these songs. I can write an essay on the song Do Kadam and will do soon so that I can back up my feelings just like I did with Uyirum Neeye. Do Kadam is so personal for me that I don't want to hold it up as universal! This song symbolizes what ARR and I share in silence without speaking a single word with each- other, but by connecting to the same universal spirit that we both trust wholeheartedly and by whose mysterious ways we are awed day in and day out. The highest taste, as Immanuel Kant defines it, is always subjective, but universal, and it will always flow from God and only God; Not only is ARR connected with Him, he can articulate His beauty with such ease and finesse that it brings many a tear to my eye thinking how much of my faith I owe to ARR; Even as I share this very personal story with you, I can feel a warm tear roll down my cheek. Now if that's not beauty, I don't know what is. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join > --------------------------------- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox.