If ur gonna judge the best combo by just seeing the respect they give for ARR's songs, then Shankar tops the list. Have u ever heard any Dir spend crores on songs solely as much as Shankar? He will create a 'movie' for 1 single ARR song.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Pravinder Sheoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Gomzy, > I would also add the following fact: > > I have never seen any director giving this much respect to ARR's music > before. > Even Mani Ratnam would chop the songs off. > But Ashutosh has used them even more than once. > > I know Mani is a legend and Ashutosh is only 3 films old. > But those 3 are one of the rarest movies in India which had immense > quality. > Song timings and picturization were superb. > > Pravinder. > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <gomtesh.upadhye@> wrote: > > > > Well if anyone has observed, mani's direction is mainly dependent on his > > entire crew. > > He hires the best. Not that he is wrong, but very dependent on them. For > > example, check out the disappointing endings in Alaipayuthey,Guru, > Yuva and > > even Dil se. > > > > And personally i felt Guru BGMs went wrong in the second half with > Guru bhai > > theme way too loud. > > Agreed Mani gets the best from arr and ashu has a long way to go, > but if you > > observe the bgms in lagaan and swades its just too perfect. Its just my > > opinion. > > > > And again i thought "yeh Jo Des hai tera" picturisation was one of > the best. > > Its innocent and perfect. > > > > But whatever it is, we are so glad to all these directors who bring > the best > > from arr. > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:55 PM, arr pavan <arrpavan@> wrote: > > > > > Dude ! you need not go to the extent of saying insult & all. It > is just > > > the discussion about Ashu yet to give dimensions that Mani has > given without > > > Arr & with Arr. True to the fact mani ratnam has proved on more > good movies > > > with any music director. Why left Pagal Nilavu his debut movie > before Mouna > > > Ragam. PN is a hit. Mani is highly budget conscious & do not > experiment > > > with larger-than-life movies. > > > > > > Regards Pavan > > > > > > > > > > > > *"shanavas.chemmamkuzhi" <shanavas.chemmamkuzhi@>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Comparing with Ashuthosh is an insult to Mani Ratnam.From Mounaragam > > > to Kannathil Muthamittal, Mani Ratnam films always offered great > > > music.Ashuthosh is over dependent on AR, but Maniratnam is capable > > > to produce good music with any music director. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Arijit Debnath" > > > <arijit741@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think whatever the outcome of Rahman-Ashu combo...it's totally > > > Rahman's > > > > contribution... if u go for Ashu-'s 1st directorial venture (Bazi > > > starring > > > > Amir Khan) am sure u'll be laughing at hearing the songs and BGMs. > > > > > > > > Ashu killed a beautiful song called "Yeh jo desh" in Swadesh with > > > poor > > > > picturisation. > > > > > > > > Mani's thinking is far beyond than Ashu's... I think no one other > > > than Mani > > > > can give an idea to compose songs in "Chor Chor/thiruda thiruda". > > > > > > > > The BGM of Dil Se...the song concept for "Dile Se re", "satrangee > > > re".... > > > > its like awesome. > > > > Take any song from Roja... in India "rukmani rukmani" is 1st song > > > of its > > > > kind... and think about the picturization. > > > > What abt "iruvar"/"Kannathil > > > muthamittal"/"Bombay"/"Alepaudey"/"GURU"?? > > > > The best thing of mani-arr combo is the freshness and new blend... > > > > something never before heard... be it songs or bmg...so > > > innovative.... > > > > > > > > Innivation also noted in RDB BGMs...... > > > > I am telling u the diff between Ashu and Rakesh mehera in terms of > > > > innovation: > > > > > > > > The song "Ghanana ghanana"... the part "Mana dharkaye bijuria" in > > > 3 times > > > > (lyrics may be wrong)...its called a "Tihai" in hindustani > > > classical... but > > > > what Rahman did in the last phrase he added "mana mana dharkaye > > > > bijuria"....which is technically not correct or out of beat... but > > > musically > > > > awesome and innovative... but I am sure...this is coming > > > completely out of > > > > Rahman's musical mind...no contribution from Ashu. > > > > > > > > Now consider the song "Khalbali" "ziddi..." a totally misfit > > > song to the > > > > Rebels in 1940's India... but "Ziddi.." portion is being played > > > when Bhagat > > > > Sing and his followers are fasting.... here Rakesh is injecting > > > the song in > > > > right place.... > > > > > > > > Also take the moment the patriots are hiding and British police > > > > chasing...and a rock kind of guiter is in background...just like > > > telling > > > > "I'll break free"...this is innovation, again Rahman is injected by > > > > Director.... > > > > > > > > but in Ashu's movies songs and bgms are contemporary... real good > > > > compositions but not surprising. > > > > > > > > Anyway... all these are my personal feelings... > > > > > > > > Arijit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/02/2008, Pradeepan R <pradeepanisonline@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the reason why Ashutosh-ARR combo works well is because > > > > > CONSCIOUSLY & INTENTIONALLY Ashutosh makes the movie with plenty > > > of scope > > > > > for BGM. > > > > > > > > > > for example. consider a scene from Lagaan. > > > > > Indian batsman gets hit on the head. > > > > > Ashu intentionally shows reactions from atleast 4 or 5 > > > characters for well > > > > > over a second, with closeup of their faces. > > > > > This definitely needs a good BGM. > > > > > > > > > > another example from Swades. > > > > > SRK stares at the open sky for a few seconds upto a minute. > > > > > There HAS to be a BGM there.. > > > > > > > > > > with Mani, things are more casual - less cinematic (may be > > > termed as > > > > > mature). > > > > > But still ARR has lot of chances for good BGM, but not so much > > > as the > > > > > SOngs itself. > > > > > Mani gives ARR a great chance for scoring songs - that can be > > > heard with > > > > > the movie as well as without any idea of the Movie.. > > > > > > > > > > with Ashu, its more blended with the movie.. > > > > > I'm not comparing Ashu & Mani , but it will be appropriate to > > > conclude > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > - Ashu will make a great director for a real 'musical'. (ARR > > > should use > > > > > him if he plans to make a musical in India). > > > > > - Mani will make a great director for fact based, closer to life > > > style > > > > > movies. > > > > > > > > > > But its too early to judge which combo is better :)) > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Arijit Debnath <arijit741@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > To me Mani-ARR is the best combo, nothing else matters.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Arijit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/02/2008, Pravinder Sheoran <pravindersheoran@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > After a lot lot of thinking process, i have come to the > > > conclusion > > > > > > > that its time now to accept that ARR - Ashutosh combination > > > has > > > > > > > surpassed ARR - Mani Ratnam combination (which has been no.1 > > > for a > > > > > > > long long time now). > > > > > > > It may be that many times Rahman Saab composes out of the > > > world songs > > > > > > > for Mani Ratnam and Mani Sir also comes out with many ground > > > breaking > > > > > > > videos for A R Rahman many times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But when it comes to be a combined effect, i think ARR and > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > give more delightful output which is best in terms of > > > situation > > > > > > > handling > > > > > > > (I mean the songs are according to the situation of the > > > movie) without > > > > > > > compromising the quality and taking care of popularity as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its really a tough decision though, i might be influenced by > > > the > > > > > > > factor that JA has just been released and has a huge > > > temporary effect > > > > > > > on my mind (Which may prove to be a permanent effect as > > > well). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AGREE or DISAGREE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pravinder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Pradeepan. > > > > > > > > > > "All you need to do is decide what to do with the time that is > > > given to > > > > > you !" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. 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