On 12/6/2008 2:35 PM India Time, _: Avinash :_ wrote:

> Zindagi also reminds me one of the recent mellow song "Kaisi hai yeh 
> ruth" (Dil Chahta Hai )by SEL, which is also surprisingly sung by 
> Srinivas. You have to hear it again to find the similarities...

Good that you mentioned that song. It is indeed a rare lovely song of 
current days that establishes that melody is still very much alive. I 
like it a lot.

I am listening to that and finding one noticeable thing that though the 
song is having positive, happy lyrics, still the mood of the song is not 
reflecting that happiness. The song is quite contained and is rendered 
quite maturedly, somewhat "with indifference to the happiness" so much 
that if you don't pay attention to the exact words in lyrics, and go 
with just the feeling conveyed, you might end up thinking it to be a sad 
"separation type" song.

I wonder why and how that effect was brought in that song.

--
Rawat

> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This song has an old world type melody to it, almost like a 
> ghazal. 
>> And since you've heard ghazals before, maybe that's why you think 
> it's
>> "old".  It has nothing to do with it being a stale ARR song, and on
>> the contrary, in Zindagi, ARR has composed such beautiful, smooth
>> contoured melody like from the evergreen era in the 1950s and 
> 1960s. 
>> I know a well known classical singer and he was very much touched 
> and
>> impressed with Zindagi when he heard it, reminding him of pure 
> melody
>> numbers from the evergreen era.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Jahanzeb Farooq"
>> <jahanzebtippu@> wrote:
>>> well in fact when i tried i could not come up with many songs 
> which i 
>>> could say similar to zindagi. still i don't know why it just 
> sounds 
>>> old or similar to one of many ARR songs with SPB or Hariharan. 
> may be 
>>> it is pyaar ye (Rangeela), may be roja (Roja), nahin saamne 
> (Taal) or 
>>> sun ri sakhi (Humse Hai Muqabala). don't know exactly. it is 
> hard to 
>>> pin-point. but honestly there is some "old" feeling to this 
> song. this 
>>> is also possible that it is similar to some non-ARR song that's 
> why i 
>>> have this feeling. not sure though.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gomzy™" <gomtesh.upadhye@> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> could you please mention the ones that are same types as 
> zindagi ? 
>>> and also
>>>> how similar they are?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Jahanzeb Farooq 
>>> <jahanzebtippu@>wrote:
>>>>>   Yeh jo zindagi hai from Earth 1947 is my heart-favorite 
> too, 
>>> best ever
>>>>> from Srinivas. though I did not like Zindagi that much, for 
> me it 
>>> is
>>>>> an okay song, nothing special. my biggest complain from it 
> is that 
>>> it
>>>>> offers nothing new, ARR has given a number of these types of 
> songs
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
>>> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, V S
>>>>> Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote:
>>>>>> If there is a downside of too many releases in a short 
> duration,
>>>>> that is
>>>>>> - we jump between albums and songs and don't devote time 
> to 
>>> enjoy
>>>>> the
>>>>>> full beauty of each creation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I confess that I suffered from the above, and couldn't 
> really 
>>> enjoy
>>>>> ADA
>>>>>> till now, and other songs of other albums also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, that there is a lull till the next release by our 
> man, I am
>>>>> getting
>>>>>> time to revisit them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I chanced to hear Yuvvraaj again, sad that the film is a 
> flop,
>>>>> though
>>>>>> everyone is indeed commenting now that ARR's music is 
> marvelous 
>>> in
>>>>> this
>>>>>> and a sure shot plus side of the movie. I enjoyed the 
> movie 
>>> myself,
>>>>> and
>>>>>> the songs picturization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I took a break from Ghazini and SDM to listen to 
> Yuvvraaj, 
>>> and
>>>>>> further beauties got revealed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not very comfortable with using headphones. it sort 
> of 
>>> binds me
>>>>> to
>>>>>> my pc desk and degree of movement gets restricted so I 
> avoid 
>>> that. I
>>>>> had
>>>>>> not heard any of the recent releases through headphone, 
> and 
>>> heard
>>>>> them
>>>>>> only on average quality speakers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, this time, while hearing to zindagi, I noticed that 
> there 
>>> is a
>>>>>> vocal echo of shrinivas' voice at places. I had totally 
> missed 
>>> out
>>>>> on
>>>>>> that till now. And then, after the louder volume of pc 
> speaker
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> clarify that much and loudness became irritating, I had to 
> wear 
>>> the
>>>>>> headphone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And wow. What a song. What a beauty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For last 10 years or so, Srinivas' 1947 Earth number "Ye 
> jo 
>>> Zindagi
>>>>> hai"
>>>>>> has been my all time ARR best. That was the last time, I 
> had 
>>> felt
>>>>> that
>>>>>> "walking two feet above the ground" effect, the song that 
> had
>>>>> consumed
>>>>>> me, that had captivated me, I had felt like a teenager in 
> first
>>>>> love.
>>>>>> And here was another zindagi in the same voice by the same 
> ARR. 
>>> And
>>>>> what
>>>>>> a beauty it is. And I am again feeling those same above 
> feelings
>>>>> even
>>>>>> though I have aged a decade in the meantime since previous 
>>> zindagi.
>>>>>> People had said that Water was subtle. I think this 
> zindagi is 
>>> the
>>>>> most
>>>>>> subtle song ever given by our man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a contemplative voice. Sadness san melodrama. A 
> guiltless,
>>>>>> confusionless quest and exploration. Putting deep feelings 
> to 
>>> words.
>>>>>> The song nearest to yuvvraaj's zindagi genre that comes to 
> my 
>>> mind
>>>>> is
>>>>>> another Gulzar song from Anand (MD: Salil Chaudhary) -
>  "kahin 
>>> door
>>>>> jab
>>>>>> din dhal jaayein" though there is a lot of difference in 
> the 
>>> sadness
>>>>>> level of two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?
>>>>> swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-
>>>>>
>>> vfl66122.swf&video_id=OgBU75ApkSw&rel=0&showsearch=1&eurl=http%
> 3A//www
>>>>> .bollyclips.com/bollywoodvideos/video/OgBU75ApkSw/Kahin-Door-
> Jab-
>>> Din-
>>>>> Anand-
>>>>>
>>> Lyrics.html&iurl=http%
> 3A//i4.ytimg.com/vi/OgBU75ApkSw/hqdefault.jpg&sk
> =FyS51qccX0_TR5VHiVIZtGrjj2oCfCGKC&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=
> 1
>>>>> &autoplay=1&border=0&onscreensearch=0
>>>>>> http://beemp3.com/download.php?
>>>>> file=2056183&song=Kahin+Door+Jab+Din+Dhal+Jaye-ApnaMela.Com-
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The negative, I think, is this entire song got wasted on 
>>> majority of
>>>>>> listeners - It is so subtle, it requires such a solitude, 
>>> devotion,
>>>>> good
>>>>>> system, player, speakers/ headphone, stereo that such 
> beauty 
>>> would
>>>>> never
>>>>>> have become apparent to those who listened to it on common 
>>> radio,
>>>>>> transistors, on vividh bharti/ fm channels, on TV, even 
> worse 
>>> for
>>>>> those
>>>>>> who listened to this in parts as TV/ fm often doesn't play 
> full
>>>>> songs
>>>>>> and there is a lot of maddening blabbering on fm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The film didn't help this song much be bisecting it, 
> showing in 
>>> two
>>>>> parts.
>>>>>> So, it is sad that this being one of ARR's best song go 
> mostly
>>>>> waste.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rawat


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