With all due respects to both, Jagjit Singh and also ARR, let us first note 
that it is an opinion and not necessarily a case of mud-slinging.
 
And he was referring specifically to 'Ghazals' alone. We must note that of 
Jagjit Singh did not admire ARR, he would not have agreed to be part of 'Jan 
Gan Man' by ARR. 
 
So, lets not blow it out of proportion.
 
Now, coming to ghazals, if one really listens to Ghazals, say the ones that 
were composed in films, what jagjit Singh said is absolutely right. We dont 
have ghazals anymore and lets accept it, even ARR did not compose many. 
 
ARR is music-driven composer and many lyricists, including Gulzar, agreed that 
he gets to write lyrics for the tunes already set into music. and later they 
work around it.
 

In Ghazals, the words are born first and then music is set to the words.
Also, the composer has a very indepth acumen about the language, words, 
vocabulary, usage etc, while composing Ghazals. More importantly urdu.
 
For both these points, ARR actually does not fit in.  So, he has a point. I am 
not saying that ARR is incapable of composing tunes for lyrics. Neither i am 
saying that ARR lacks lyrical sense. Just that he has recently started learning 
Hindi/urdu and that too out of the songs he composed. So, it is not that he 
speaks/converses in Hindi/urdu to have a grasp/mastery over the language to 
understand the nuances and then set music accordingly so that certain words 
outshine the music, as the ghazals demand that.
 
Jagjit Singh is a seasoned ghazal singer and he has seen the length and breadth 
of this field called 'Ghazals', having been one of the great singers himself. 
So, from his angle and point of view, it is natural for him to feel so. Rahman 
songs have good lyrics for sure, but they are definitely not comparable to the 
ones in Ghazals or the world which Jagjit Singh has seen.
 
The only exception is ARR's Tehzeeb, which had 3 wonderful Ghazals, that 
reaffirmed my faith in ARR that he can compose good ghazals too. But tell me, 
How many people know about Tehzeeb, because it is not a great audio-hit 
commercially, for us to see it in all TV channels. And also, How many Tehzeebs 
did ARR do after that? None. I am sure that Jagjit Singh never got to listen to 
this album.
 
Just that ARR is not getting film-makers who insist on such rich ghazals. 
Whatever might be reason, Jagjit has a point though. Lets look at it 
objectivistically, instead of just posting negative comments on Jagjit, without 
verifying whether he has a valid point or not.


Regards
Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla.
 
http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com 
 

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, gut but <gut_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: gut but <gut_...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Jagjit Singh - What does Rahman know about ghazals
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 11:52 AM








I think Jagit singh is not happy about the fame and attention that rahman is 
getting at the moment ! 
we need to understand that rahman is not sticking to particular kind of music, 
he goes according to
the taste of contemporary world and theme of movie.






From: jsrwm <js...@yahoo. com>
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009 23:22:32
Subject: [arr] Re: Jagjit Singh - What does Rahman know about ghazals



Another story of "Oops this is a sour grape" begins..

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Anil Nair <rhythmcalls@ ...> wrote:
>
> Didn't expect Jagjit Singh to say this ...or maybe its just yet again
the
> "media monster" at work
>
> -A
>
> http://movies. indiainfo. com/2009/ 01/28/0901280633 _gazals.html
>
> What does Rahman know about ghazals?Wednesday, January 28, 2009 06:31
[IST]
>
> Mumbai: DNA
<http://movies. indiainfo. com/2009/ 01/28/0901280633 _gazals.html#>,
> in association with Rotary Club of Hiranandani Estate, Thane, brings
on
> stage the legendary ghazal maestro to recreate the magic of the
> music<http://movies. indiainfo. com/2009/ 01/28/0901280633 _gazals.html#>
> form.
> On the eve of Jagjit Singh Live in
>
Concert<http://movies. indiainfo. com/2009/ 01/28/0901280633 _gazals.html#>
> (at
> the Shanmukhananda Auditorium), the veteran exponent of ghazals rues
the end
> of their era in Hindi films.
>
> Jagjit is not singing any film songs currently because he feels there
is a
> lack of taste on the part of today's filmmakers and music directors.
"They
> don't know what ghazals are all about and they lack good taste in
music.
> What does AR Rahman know about ghazals? He will never use a ghazal in
his
> films. All they do is pick up tunes from the West," he says.
>
> He criticises contemporary music directors for ruining the Indianness
of
> sound. "Earlier, in the 60s and 70s, 90% of the music was based on the
> ghazal. Today, there's no poetry phrasing, it's all Western and the
language
> is tapori -- a mix of English and Hindi. What kind of lyrics are Pappu
> can't dance
<http://movies. indiainfo. com/2009/ 01/28/0901280633 _gazals.html#>
> saala?"
>
> Yet the popularity of the form endures. He says, "My audience has only
grown
> over the years. I always improvise and add variations to my old songs
on
> stage. Every ghazal is re-born on that day."
>
> Interestingly, Jagjit only performs for a cause. On January 29, at the
DNA
> and Rotary concert, he will perform to provide midday meals for
children. He
> says, "I never give dates to concerts which are just money-making
measures.
> I want to give back to the society. So I give my dates only to charity
> concerts."
> --
> -A
> http://viewsnmuse. blogspot. com
>


 














      
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