"If a highly processed vocals is making a song sound hissy, whats so pleasant in hearing it? "
This is subjective and whether you think it's pleasant or not, is up to you. I'm not contradicting myself. I don't sense any hiss at all. To me, it doesn't bother. Look man, you have your opinions and I have mine. You have your ears and I have mine. It just comes down to perception in this case. Let's leave this to rest. I really don't want to discuss this further. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arun KB Ganesh <ergu...@...> wrote: > > *Note *- Dear ARR, If you are reading this - This mail is not intended to > hurt you or your team. Nor is this any kind of advice.. it is a plea from a > member of this group since 2000, I have reasons to say all these bluntly - I > really wish you take note. You are the best judge when it comes to sound and > to decide on the next steps if you see a problem. I am highlighting these so > that these problems can be corrected, before it is too late. Sorry if I > sound odd ! > > > Sorry Chord, this discussion is back to Square 1. With all due respect - You > are contradicting yourself when you acknowledge of '*maybe *a highly > processed electronic sounds, esp vocals', is bothering me. If a highly > processed vocals is making a song sound hissy, whats so pleasant in hearing > it? In other words, what you said may be true - only if ARR's sound > engineers are re-inventing themselves when working with him, trying out new > stuff on vocals which I think is not the case. > > I also disagree with you that AR's contemporaries are way of ahead of him in > terms of sound quality. I listen to various CDs of different composers, and > I find AR's albums to be as competent in terms of sound quality as theirs. > > I had mentioned this point on another mail thread - About the sound > quality of other MDs - give 'Dostana' and 'Bachna Ae Haseeno' a listen, > compare the sound quality - they sound *tight* (if I call it in a studio > language). > > I will still stand by my statement that as of today, ARR albums sound > quality is not on par with other MDs .. to be precise, it all started with > Rang De Basanti. Oh, by the way ... : > RDB was not released by T-Series... It had a loudness issue > Delhi-6 was by T-Series - it didnt have a loudness issue > so how can loudness in BLUE be a problem from the music company's end? I > feel it is not. > > As a musician & singer myself, I really really trust my ears when it comes > to sound quality. > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM, ichord <purev...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > There are sound issues in this album at times due to loudness, which I > > concede, but that does not make the overall sound quality mediocre. And > > being able to discern complex layering of music tracks clearly is very > > relevant to the discussion of sound. What may be bothering you is the highly > > processed electronic sounds in this album, esp, in the vocals, which I can > > understand. > > > > Trust me, I understand the difference between sound and music and a > > discussion of one is relevant to the discussion of another, because without > > good sound quality, I and many others would not be able to enjoy the > > distinct and complex musical layers that he has gifted in this crafty album. > > > > I also disagree with you that AR's contemporaries are way of ahead of him > > in terms of sound quality. I listen to various CDs of different composers, > > and I find AR's albums to be as competent in terms of sound quality as > > theirs. > > > > Mean no disrespect to your opinions and hope we can continue to discuss and > > maybe even disagree without being disagreeable. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, Arun > > KB Ganesh <ergusee@> wrote: > > > > > > Surprising - A discussion about the sound quality of this album, turned > > into > > > a music review ??? Guess some people don't seem to understand the > > difference > > > between the 2 ?! > > > The music may have intricate layering & complicate complex chord > > > progressions etc etc ... , whatever be the case, the final sound quality > > of > > > this album is *mediocre*. What matters is what the end-user gets to hear > > .. > > > It may be the music company or it may be the studio master at fault - > > > whoever it may be, things HAS to be set right at some point. If not now, > > it > > > may be too late. > > > > > > ARR revolutionised sound of Indian music, but as of today, others are way > > > ahead of him in terms of *"SOUND QUALITY" (Mind you, I am NOT talking > > about > > > the music. ARR stands way ahead of others with respect to music & the > > sounds > > > used (again, not the sound quality). * > > > > > > I am willing to explain it again, if people dont understand. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Arun KB Ganesh <ergusee@> wrote: > > > > > > > *Clarification : ** > > > > * > > > > *After all the effort ARR has put in to create these songs, he (more > > than > > > > all of us put together) certainly would not want the sound quality to > > be > > > > mediocre. As a person who adores the person and his music, I felt it > > was my > > > > duty to post my thoughts in the group - if ARR reads this, I would be > > really > > > > glad.. so that he can look into the problems and fix the shortcomings. > > > > * > > > > **My intention was not to hurt ARR or his team by the below email. I > > never > > > > said the songs are not good, nor the sounds used in the song - I am in > > no > > > > way eligible to comment on that. Since I am so much used to an *ARR > > sound*for years, I could certainly feel the difference here. I was only > > feeling > > > > bad about the 'sound quality' the album "Blue" has. > > > > > > > > Like Gomz pointed out, it is true each song in this album has a > > different > > > > sound quality. Could be because each song are assigned to different > > > > programmers & engineers. That being said, in the past too, there have > > been > > > > various programmers & engineers who have worked on his songs - but the > > end > > > > result used to be tremendous. > > > > > > > > I don't know why the difference now. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Arun KB Ganesh <ergusee@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> One of the reasons for me to appreciate AR's music *was* the superb > > > >> quality his songs had - i am referring to the 'sound' quality. > > > >> Off late, I have felt that his songs were lacking the clarity it had. > > One > > > >> of the most beautiful songs in a major album this year had an error, > > which > > > >> was pointed out in this forum & was acknowledged by his team too (not > > in > > > >> this forum). I am not sure if it is the Sound Engineers or the > > programmers. > > > >> > > > >> The 'sound' of Blue in the *CD* is, in fact, pathetic. It more sounds > > > >> like a studio version (work in progress) - unclear vocals, boomy > > sounds for > > > >> chiggy wiggy (which is muffling the instrument before Sonu starts > > singing). > > > >> The vocals are extremely bad.... > > > >> > > > >> Not sure if it is a problem in the final mix/mastering or a problem @ > > > >> T-Series. > > > >> > > > >> I am disturbed because of this trend, and more worried coz things are > > not > > > >> being set right. With every album, I have hoped the sound would be > > 'better'. > > > >> but it has never been. > > > >> Is ARR not looking into the final product? I dont think so, 'coz the > > > >> beauty of the sound is compromised on. > > > >> > > > >> And I am not in for a debate here. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
