Just felt we are better off just answering his question "Why someone likes blue and Ravan" instead of getting personal about it.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ravi" <ravis...@...> wrote: > > make yourself clear that we would have had the same respect if one would > comment that "himself did not like and album" and would give it to the > choice. But whats not appealing is the question why posed why somebody like > both Raavan and Blue. Whats so wrong in Blue that those who liked both are > been challenged? > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "raj" <arr_nagaraj@> wrote: > > > > If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about it. > > Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying > > 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. > > Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in > > hearing why blue doesn't work for someone. > > > > Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here? > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" <purevibz@> wrote: > > > > > > Good point, Gomzy. Couldn't have said it better! > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <gomtesh.upadhye@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they > > > > believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that > > > > maybe > > > > this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves > > > > first. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members > > > > > are immersed in Raavan and praising it. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it? > > > > > > > > > > Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not > > > > > just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly > > > > > songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper > > > > > differences. > > > > > > > > > > I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically > > > > > great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to > > > > > weave the songs as a single fabric > > > > > > > > > > On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a > > > > > underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a > > > > > single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly. > > > > > Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us. > > > > > > > > > > Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies > > > > > of ARR-Mani got discussed. > > > > > > > > > > Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is > > > > > gold, back to the basics. > > > > > > > > > > Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR. > > > > > > > > > > What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was > > > > > a technically great album having new types of sounds. > > > > > > > > > > I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan, > > > > > but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in > > > > > raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about > > > > > that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down > > > > > in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about > > > > > music, about ARR's music. > > > > > > > > > > Nobody has so far asked "where is ARR's signature in Raavan", the way > > > > > we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we > > > > > all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan. > > > > > > > > > > At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's > > > > > high expectations after his oscars. > > > > > > > > > > I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations > > > > > and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget > > > > > people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should > > > > > create what his heart says. > > > > > > > > > > Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of > > > > > people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now. > > > > > Raavan got released without a word from ARR. > > > > > > > > > > And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had > > > > > stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se. > > > > > > > > > > I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations > > > > > and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become > > > > > pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan. > > > > > A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of > > > > > blue. > > > > > > > > > > Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music > > > > > explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music > > > > > when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in > > > > > touch. > > > > > > > > > > Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an > > > > > album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover. > > > > > > > > > > It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an > > > > > experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories, > > > > > confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that > > > > > feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition > > > > > (not the blue style, but the feedback on blue style) to come up with > > > > > Raavan that has turned out to be abashed heart-stealer. > > > > > > > > > > With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make both > > > > > the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person liking blue can > > > > > now like raavan also, and how can a person liking raavan might have > > > > > liked blue also? > > > > > > > > > > Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations get > > > > > discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything can't be > > > > > equally great. Such persons need to individually introspect and find > > > > > what he stands for and what he doesn't identify with, and then > > > > > appreciate certain things that he stands for and criticize certain > > > > > things that he doesn't identify with. People can make out what is > > > > > forced appreciation and what is undue criticism. > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 years > > > > > ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of oscar > > > > > aberration. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rawat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > www.gomzyphotography.com > > > > > > > > > >
