Mr.nagraj, u din't get my point...may be i was not clear...i just meant no one
here wants an ARR composition to be raved...everyone here knows what his music
is and thats just the very reason for all of us being here...letting others
know what u liked in a particular composition would b a better thing to do on
everyones part...and i meant no one is as talented as ARR to bash the man
himself, the person who is exploring new challenges and delivering something
beyond imagination all the time...so there is no way a true music lover can
ever bash Mr.ARR...if he is bashing ,then sorry he has lost his ears..
I have no hard feelings for you Mr.nagraj, you are my fellow rahmaniac...
--- On Mon, 5/3/10, raj <arr_naga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: raj <arr_naga...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:30 AM
/* And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all
know what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an
ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just
like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions there
than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
wake up brother(s).. .
*/
My point is this. Raving/bashing should addressed and treated in the same way.
And your point me not liking an album is out of topic as I am not discussing my
liking/disliking. Why get personal( my ear,my creative abilities) on a public
forum for expressing a opinion about an album/product?
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, harsha vardhan <harshaa_vardhan@ ...>
wrote:
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> Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 'chiggy
> wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force you to
> love anything...its a conscience thing...
> if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is not
> your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 've
> done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than the
> creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding... its a
> film score and it needed music that can enhance the subject within certain
> limitations. ..
> ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just
> doing what every film is demanding... i don't think he has ever done music
> for the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some brilliance
> at least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at least you
> know that the man himself knows better than what we all know ,what he has to
> deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years...
> And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all know
> what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an
> ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just
> like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions
> there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
> give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
> wake up brother(s).. .
>
> --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj <arr_nagaraj@ ...> wrote:
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> From: raj <arr_nagaraj@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM
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> 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable.
> Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing
> why blue doesn't work for someone.
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> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "AJ" <purevibz@ .> wrote:
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> > Good point, Gomzy. Couldn't have said it better!
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> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzyâ„¢ <gomtesh.upadhye@ > wrote:
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> > > The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
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> > > believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that
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> > > this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves
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> > > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote:
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> > > > Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
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> > > > are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
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> > > > I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
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> > > > Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
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> > > > just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
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> > > > songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
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> > > > I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
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> > > > great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
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> > > > weave the songs as a single fabric
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> > > > On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
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> > > > underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
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> > > > single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
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> > > > Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
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> > > > Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
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> > > > of ARR-Mani got discussed.
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> > > > Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
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> > > > gold, back to the basics.
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> > > > Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
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> > > > What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
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> > > > a technically great album having new types of sounds.
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> > > > I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,
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> > > > but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in
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> > > > raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about
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> > > > that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down
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> > > > in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about
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> > > > music, about ARR's music.
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> > > > Nobody has so far asked "where is ARR's signature in Raavan", the way
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> > > > we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we
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> > > > all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.
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> > > > At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's
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> > > > high expectations after his oscars.
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> > > > I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations
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> > > > and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget
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> > > > people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should
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> > > > create what his heart says.
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> > > > Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to him.
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> > > > Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of
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> > > > people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now.
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> > > > Raavan got released without a word from ARR.
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> > > > And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had
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> > > > stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.
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> > > > I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations
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> > > > and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become
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> > > > pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan.
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> > > > A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of
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> > > > blue.
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> > > > Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music
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> > > > explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music
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> > > > when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in
> > > > touch.
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> > > > Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an
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> > > > album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.
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> > > > It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an
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> > > > experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories,
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> > > > confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that
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> > > > feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition
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> > > > (not the blue style, but the feedback on blue style) to come up with
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> > > > Raavan that has turned out to be abashed heart-stealer.
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> > > > With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make both
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> > > > the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person liking blue can
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> > > > now like raavan also, and how can a person liking raavan might have
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> > > > liked blue also?
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> > > > Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations get
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> > > > discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything can't be
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> > > > equally great. Such persons need to individually introspect and find
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> > > > what he stands for and what he doesn't identify with, and then
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> > > > appreciate certain things that he stands for and criticize certain
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> > > > things that he doesn't identify with. People can make out what is
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> > > > forced appreciation and what is undue criticism.
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> > > > --
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> > > >
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> > > > Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 years
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> > > > ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of oscar
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> > > > aberration.
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> > > >
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> > > > --
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> > > > Rawat
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> > > --
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> > > www.gomzyphotograph y.com
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