Vijay is Telugu....
Thanks
Vijay
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On 12-Jul-2010, at 18:28, Aakarsh <aakarsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think ARR is oblivious about it. Or if he is aware and hoped for
'something different' with words axed like that, then honestly, I
think it doesn't cut much with listeners.
Yes, I too never understood 'Muvval Muvval' part in Sivaji.
I understand if a composer has a penchant for the sound of the
lyrics instead of the meaning or the actual lyrics. But it would be
nice if that is applied to a word that is new or slang word. Like
'Masakkali'. But it would rob the beauty of language, when lyrics
are axed, just to make them sound musically good. Because, how can
incomplete words ever sound musical?
Past, Present or Future, be it anytime - A composer can really touch
people's hearts provided his music has good lyrics. it is
understandable that language is a problem for ARR but like I said,
the lyric writer or language coach for singers should help ARR and
tell him that something is not sounding right.
I would like to share a small anecdote, narrated by Gulzar. Composer
R.D.Burman too was fond of sound of words rather than their
meanings. Whenever he liked the sound of any word, he used to pick
that word and played around and made tunes out of that. While
composing the songs of Gulzar's film Aandhi, when RD came across the
word "Nasheman", he loved it and insisted on using it. He didnt know
the meaning and remarked "Yeh Nasheman kaunsa Shehar Hai yaar".
Gulzar used it as "Tinkon Ke Nasheman tak, is mod se jaathe hai".
In short, it would be even more wonderful of sound of the words are
given equal priority with diction, pronunciation and meaning.
My all time favourite was Late Rajasri, who wrote lyrics for initial
albums of ARR. He wrote them in such a way that we never felt that
they were dubbed films. So much of lyrical value and depth in
thought, that I never wanted a tamil version of Roja or Donga Donga.
Regards
Aakarsh
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, fani kalyan <rythmdivine2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: fani kalyan <rythmdivine2...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:26 PM
Your second point is not new...many other lyricists (can't rem da
lyrics but many of keeravani songs)also done this usage of syllable
L instead U like mutyal for mutyalu..the same is done in shivaji
also..puvvalle muvval muvval..AR gives more importance on da sound
of the lyric than the lyric..I think
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Aakarsh <aakarsh...@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Aakarsh <aakarsh...@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:43 AM
Honestly, the language is barely understandable in most of the songs
(except for Nammakame). Pronunciation is flung out of the window.
Come to think of it, there is not even a single singer in the album,
whose mother tongue is Telugu. So I guess language issues and
pronunciation issues are bound to happen. The singers might be
talented (Vijay Prakash or Shreya), but unless they have a language
coach, they cant get the diction right. The lyrics as such are not
comprehend-able. Even when some lines are comprehend-able, they
rendition went for a toss. Sample these:
1. Noti Muthyaal Jaarneeyakey - It should have been Noti Muthyaalu
Jaaraneeyakey. The way it was sung - Muthyaal or jaarneeyakey or
Navvrathnaal (it should have been Navvu ratnaalu).. it sounds
totally accentized/angliciz ed. Anyone who understands Telugu will
cringe and it obstructs the enjoyment of the song.
2. Maa Te-Lu-Gu Tha-lli-keee - I was really uncomfortable with the
way it was broken.
Otherwise, I tried hard to understand the lyrics. Jaaved Ali also
seemed like a totally wrong choice for that song. His diction was
totally un-telugu.
Among all singers, I think only Chitra knows Telugu (though she is
from Kerala...), out of experience. Thats quite sad, because it
might be an ARR album, but ultimately, it is a Telugu film and One
would like to understand what is being sung.
To sum up, I wish this album came in Tamil(because I dont understand
Tamil). Because It is easy to listen to a language that we cannot
understand, than to listen to a language we know and still cant
follow or rather cringe at the butchering of the language with
accents, robbing the whole nativity that is essential.
My 2 cents!
Regards
Aakarsh
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, live for arr Live <livefor...@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: live for arr Live <livefor...@yahoo. com>
Subject: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:34 AM
Dear telugu speaking fans,
Since the Puli audio is out, for the benefit of non-telugu speaking
fans, i request you to post the meaning of each song, if not the
literal line by
line translation. it would really benefit us by knowing what is sung
in the song, rather than plainly hearing it.
- Your regards
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