"yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music."
I was expecting this same exact response from you, Taimur. You're very predictable. What you said is only your opinion. Most people in this group and elsewhere would not agree with you about that. I like the ARR today just as much as ARR of yesterday. What I wrote were just observations of trends, not a judgment of what I like more or what ARR has lost over the years. ARR has changed....and to me, that's it. What I miss from ARR today is compensated by what ARR didn't emphasize before but now is emphasizing as a more mature and seasoned composer....like symphonic refinement, greater genre diversity, and more varied global styles and textures. He has expanded his repertoire and you don't hear anyone calling him repetitive anymore, a label that stuck with him by critics back in the 1990s. I like today's ARR just as much as the ARR of yesterday. Maybe you don't, but many people here in this group and elsewhere feel that ARR has changed and grown, matured as a composer, emphasizing more global music. And the Indian ARR is very much alive....Khwaja Mere Khwaja, Man Mohanna, Maula Maula, Khili Re, Ranjha Ranjha, Tere Bina, Aye Hairathe Aashiqui, Jashne Bahaar..etc. etc. I made a compilation CD of my favorites from ARR and Mani Ratnam, putting old and new songs side by side and listening to all them together. I get the same number of goosebumps when I hear Tu Hi Re or E Ajnabi as I do when I hear Behene De or Ranjha Ranjha or Tere Bina. Which song one likes better is only a matter of opinion, not truth. For me, the feelings I get when I listen to old ARR are matched by the feelings I get when I listen to new ARR. I just go with the flow and I keep nostalgia in check. You have very little insight into how nostalgia plays a role into judging music from the past. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem <taimur.nad...@...> wrote: > > AJ you hit the bulls eye the "INDIAN A R RAHMAN" , the indian flavour in > contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used > to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made > him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern > themes. >  >  yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the > magic of that standard of music. >  > today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take > DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda > contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is > completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these > three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary > masterpiece it is. >  > when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced > world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he > is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his > music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one > day. >  > and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW. >  > REGARDS, >  > taimur > > --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ <purev...@...> wrote: > > > From: AJ <purev...@...> > Subject: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on > general trends.... > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM > > >  > > > > Can't believe it.......heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still > so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it > being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut......melodious, > sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. > > If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear > much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing > room.......there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were > not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it > seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's > songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you > could hear more of "silence" in the slower compositions. "Tu Hi Re" is a > great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are > just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs > in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's > evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his > compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of > his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says > volumes. > > One more thing......songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general > were more "Indian" sounding....not just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The > trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western > and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the > ethnic Indian flavor of songs.....not completely, but the trend is there. ARR > too used to have more "ethnic Indian" sounding albums back then, even for > contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. > Later, the "Ethnic Indian" sound would be confined mostly to period film > scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and > Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how > beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot > of people are missing more of the "Indian" Rahman. Rahman's music over time > has become more "international" and less "Indian" as a general > trend....again with exceptions here and there. >