Folks, Some more testing showed inconsistency with the Casablanca site. It should work as Morocco does not use DST but I guess other countries in that area do.
You found one of the others that works consistently. Another option is to use Iceland. Now, it turns out that this is not on the menu, but it is a supported option. So, you have to modify the menu ARUserPref:TimeZone And add the choice Iceland And if you select that, it works as well. That country doesn't use DST either and never has and there is nothing else out there in the middle of the Atlantic so no confusion..... Anyway, one already on the menu. One that you can add instead. Two different options for getting what you need. The challenge we have is that we are using a standard library for doing all the timezone work. We have to go with the list of things that the library supports. And GMT is not one of the options. The full list of items (and if they are not on the menu above, they could be added and the system will support them - like Iceland (and this was tested across several systems and it does seem to be working consistently on all). Another that may hold promise is Etc/GMT. Don't know if that is on the menu or not - but again, it could be added..... But, I have to say, setting a timezone to Timbuktu is pretty hard to beat!!!! These are valid timezone names we loading from ICU libraries: ACT AET AGT ART AST Africa/Abidjan Africa/Accra Africa/Addis_Ababa Africa/Algiers Africa/Asmara Africa/Asmera Africa/Bamako Africa/Bangui Africa/Banjul Africa/Bissau Africa/Blantyre Africa/Brazzaville Africa/Bujumbura Africa/Cairo Africa/Casablanca Africa/Ceuta Africa/Conakry Africa/Dakar Africa/Dar_es_Salaam Africa/Djibouti Africa/Douala Africa/El_Aaiun Africa/Freetown Africa/Gaborone Africa/Harare Africa/Johannesburg Africa/Kampala Africa/Khartoum Africa/Kigali Africa/Kinshasa Africa/Lagos Africa/Libreville Africa/Lome Africa/Luanda Africa/Lubumbashi Africa/Lusaka Africa/Malabo Africa/Maputo Africa/Maseru Africa/Mbabane Africa/Mogadishu Africa/Monrovia Africa/Nairobi Africa/Ndjamena Africa/Niamey Africa/Nouakchott Africa/Ouagadougou Africa/Porto-Novo Africa/Sao_Tome Africa/Timbuktu Africa/Tripoli Africa/Tunis Africa/Windhoek America/Adak America/Anchorage America/Anguilla America/Antigua America/Araguaina America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires America/Argentina/Catamarca America/Argentina/ComodRivadavia America/Argentina/Cordoba America/Argentina/Jujuy America/Argentina/La_Rioja America/Argentina/Mendoza America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos America/Argentina/Salta America/Argentina/San_Juan America/Argentina/San_Luis America/Argentina/Tucuman America/Argentina/Ushuaia America/Aruba America/Asuncion America/Atikokan America/Atka America/Bahia America/Barbados America/Belem America/Belize America/Blanc-Sablon America/Boa_Vista America/Bogota America/Boise America/Buenos_Aires America/Cambridge_Bay America/Campo_Grande America/Cancun America/Caracas America/Catamarca America/Cayenne America/Cayman America/Chicago America/Chihuahua America/Coral_Harbour America/Cordoba America/Costa_Rica America/Cuiaba America/Curacao America/Danmarkshavn America/Dawson America/Dawson_Creek America/Denver America/Detroit America/Dominica America/Edmonton America/Eirunepe America/El_Salvador America/Ensenada America/Fort_Wayne America/Fortaleza America/Glace_Bay America/Godthab America/Goose_Bay America/Grand_Turk America/Grenada America/Guadeloupe America/Guatemala America/Guayaquil America/Guyana America/Halifax America/Havana America/Hermosillo America/Indiana/Indianapolis America/Indiana/Knox America/Indiana/Marengo America/Indiana/Petersburg America/Indiana/Tell_City America/Indiana/Vevay America/Indiana/Vincennes America/Indiana/Winamac America/Indianapolis America/Inuvik America/Iqaluit America/Jamaica America/Jujuy America/Juneau America/Kentucky/Louisville America/Kentucky/Monticello America/Knox_IN America/La_Paz America/Lima America/Los_Angeles America/Louisville America/Maceio America/Managua America/Manaus America/Marigot America/Martinique America/Mazatlan America/Mendoza America/Menominee America/Merida America/Mexico_City America/Miquelon America/Moncton America/Monterrey America/Montevideo America/Montreal America/Montserrat America/Nassau America/New_York America/Nipigon America/Nome America/Noronha America/North_Dakota/Center America/North_Dakota/New_Salem America/Panama America/Pangnirtung America/Paramaribo America/Phoenix America/Port-au-Prince America/Port_of_Spain America/Porto_Acre America/Porto_Velho America/Puerto_Rico America/Rainy_River America/Rankin_Inlet America/Recife America/Regina America/Resolute America/Rio_Branco America/Rosario America/Santarem America/Santiago America/Santo_Domingo America/Sao_Paulo America/Scoresbysund America/Shiprock America/St_Barthelemy America/St_Johns America/St_Kitts America/St_Lucia America/St_Thomas America/St_Vincent America/Swift_Current America/Tegucigalpa America/Thule America/Thunder_Bay America/Tijuana America/Toronto America/Tortola America/Vancouver America/Virgin America/Whitehorse America/Winnipeg America/Yakutat America/Yellowknife Antarctica/Casey Antarctica/Davis Antarctica/DumontDUrville Antarctica/Mawson Antarctica/McMurdo Antarctica/Palmer Antarctica/Rothera Antarctica/South_Pole Antarctica/Syowa Antarctica/Vostok Arctic/Longyearbyen Asia/Aden Asia/Almaty Asia/Amman Asia/Anadyr Asia/Aqtau Asia/Aqtobe Asia/Ashgabat Asia/Ashkhabad Asia/Baghdad Asia/Bahrain Asia/Baku Asia/Bangkok Asia/Beirut Asia/Bishkek Asia/Brunei Asia/Calcutta Asia/Choibalsan Asia/Chongqing Asia/Chungking Asia/Colombo Asia/Dacca Asia/Damascus Asia/Dhaka Asia/Dili Asia/Dubai Asia/Dushanbe Asia/Gaza Asia/Harbin Asia/Ho_Chi_Minh Asia/Hong_Kong Asia/Hovd Asia/Irkutsk Asia/Istanbul Asia/Jakarta Asia/Jayapura Asia/Jerusalem Asia/Kabul Asia/Kamchatka Asia/Karachi Asia/Kashgar Asia/Kathmandu Asia/Katmandu Asia/Kolkata Asia/Krasnoyarsk Asia/Kuala_Lumpur Asia/Kuching Asia/Kuwait Asia/Macao Asia/Macau Asia/Magadan Asia/Makassar Asia/Manila Asia/Muscat Asia/Nicosia Asia/Novosibirsk Asia/Omsk Asia/Oral Asia/Phnom_Penh Asia/Pontianak Asia/Pyongyang Asia/Qatar Asia/Qyzylorda Asia/Rangoon Asia/Riyadh Asia/Riyadh87 Asia/Riyadh88 Asia/Riyadh89 Asia/Saigon Asia/Sakhalin Asia/Samarkand Asia/Seoul Asia/Shanghai Asia/Singapore Asia/Taipei Asia/Tashkent Asia/Tbilisi Asia/Tehran Asia/Tel_Aviv Asia/Thimbu Asia/Thimphu Asia/Tokyo Asia/Ujung_Pandang Asia/Ulaanbaatar Asia/Ulan_Bator Asia/Urumqi Asia/Vientiane Asia/Vladivostok Asia/Yakutsk Asia/Yekaterinburg Asia/Yerevan Atlantic/Azores Atlantic/Bermuda Atlantic/Canary Atlantic/Cape_Verde Atlantic/Faeroe Atlantic/Faroe Atlantic/Jan_Mayen Atlantic/Madeira Atlantic/Reykjavik Atlantic/South_Georgia Atlantic/St_Helena Atlantic/Stanley Australia/ACT Australia/Adelaide Australia/Brisbane Australia/Broken_Hill Australia/Canberra Australia/Currie Australia/Darwin Australia/Eucla Australia/Hobart Australia/LHI Australia/Lindeman Australia/Lord_Howe Australia/Melbourne Australia/NSW Australia/North Australia/Perth Australia/Queensland Australia/South Australia/Sydney Australia/Tasmania Australia/Victoria Australia/West Australia/Yancowinna BET BST Brazil/Acre Brazil/DeNoronha Brazil/East Brazil/West CAT CET CNT CST CST6CDT CTT Canada/Atlantic Canada/Central Canada/East-Saskatchewan Canada/Eastern Canada/Mountain Canada/Newfoundland Canada/Pacific Canada/Saskatchewan Canada/Yukon Chile/Continental Chile/EasterIsland Cuba EAT ECT EET EST EST5EDT Egypt Eire Etc/GMT Etc/GMT+0 Etc/GMT+1 Etc/GMT+10 Etc/GMT+11 Etc/GMT+12 Etc/GMT+2 Etc/GMT+3 Etc/GMT+4 Etc/GMT+5 Etc/GMT+6 Etc/GMT+7 Etc/GMT+8 Etc/GMT+9 Etc/GMT-0 Etc/GMT-1 Etc/GMT-10 Etc/GMT-11 Etc/GMT-12 Etc/GMT-13 Etc/GMT-14 Etc/GMT-2 Etc/GMT-3 Etc/GMT-4 Etc/GMT-5 Etc/GMT-6 Etc/GMT-7 Etc/GMT-8 Etc/GMT-9 Etc/GMT0 Etc/Greenwich Etc/UCT Etc/UTC Etc/Universal Etc/Unknown Etc/Zulu Europe/Amsterdam Europe/Andorra Europe/Athens Europe/Belfast Europe/Belgrade Europe/Berlin Europe/Bratislava Europe/Brussels Europe/Bucharest Europe/Budapest Europe/Chisinau Europe/Copenhagen Europe/Dublin Europe/Gibraltar Europe/Guernsey Europe/Helsinki Europe/Isle_of_Man Europe/Istanbul Europe/Jersey Europe/Kaliningrad Europe/Kiev Europe/Lisbon Europe/Ljubljana Europe/London Europe/Luxembourg Europe/Madrid Europe/Malta Europe/Mariehamn Europe/Minsk Europe/Monaco Europe/Moscow Europe/Nicosia Europe/Oslo Europe/Paris Europe/Podgorica Europe/Prague Europe/Riga Europe/Rome Europe/Samara Europe/San_Marino Europe/Sarajevo Europe/Simferopol Europe/Skopje Europe/Sofia Europe/Stockholm Europe/Tallinn Europe/Tirane Europe/Tiraspol Europe/Uzhgorod Europe/Vaduz Europe/Vatican Europe/Vienna Europe/Vilnius Europe/Volgograd Europe/Warsaw Europe/Zagreb Europe/Zaporozhye Europe/Zurich Factory GB GB-Eire GMT GMT+0 GMT-0 GMT0 Greenwich HST Hongkong IET IST Iceland Indian/Antananarivo Indian/Chagos Indian/Christmas Indian/Cocos Indian/Comoro Indian/Kerguelen Indian/Mahe Indian/Maldives Indian/Mauritius Indian/Mayotte Indian/Reunion Iran Israel JST Jamaica Japan Kwajalein Libya MET MIT MST MST7MDT Mexico/BajaNorte Mexico/BajaSur Mexico/General Mideast/Riyadh87 Mideast/Riyadh88 Mideast/Riyadh89 NET NST NZ NZ-CHAT Navajo PLT PNT PRC PRT PST PST8PDT Pacific/Apia Pacific/Auckland Pacific/Chatham Pacific/Easter Pacific/Efate Pacific/Enderbury Pacific/Fakaofo Pacific/Fiji Pacific/Funafuti Pacific/Galapagos Pacific/Gambier Pacific/Guadalcanal Pacific/Guam Pacific/Honolulu Pacific/Johnston Pacific/Kiritimati Pacific/Kosrae Pacific/Kwajalein Pacific/Majuro Pacific/Marquesas Pacific/Midway Pacific/Nauru Pacific/Niue Pacific/Norfolk Pacific/Noumea Pacific/Pago_Pago Pacific/Palau Pacific/Pitcairn Pacific/Ponape Pacific/Port_Moresby Pacific/Rarotonga Pacific/Saipan Pacific/Samoa Pacific/Tahiti Pacific/Tarawa Pacific/Tongatapu Pacific/Truk Pacific/Wake Pacific/Wallis Pacific/Yap Poland Portugal ROC ROK SST Singapore SystemV/AST4 SystemV/AST4ADT SystemV/CST6 SystemV/CST6CDT SystemV/EST5 SystemV/EST5EDT SystemV/HST10 SystemV/MST7 SystemV/MST7MDT SystemV/PST8 SystemV/PST8PDT SystemV/YST9 SystemV/YST9YDT Turkey UCT US/Alaska US/Aleutian US/Arizona US/Central US/East-Indiana US/Eastern US/Hawaii US/Indiana-Starke US/Michigan US/Mountain US/Pacific US/Pacific-New US/Samoa UTC Universal VST W-SU WET Zulu Doug Mueller 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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:18 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Time Zone for UTC ** This has been a timely post for my project. Pun intended. LOL Your suggestion worked for me as well and I did type it in the field. Teresa From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Keller, Aaron Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:48 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Time Zone for UTC ** Ah ha! Yes, I was always annoyed that one couldn't specify an actual time zone for the 'time zone' field. The menu in the UI doesn't actually list time zones at all, but cities. But you made me think that maybe I should be thinking outside the box here - or rather outside the menu! So rather than choosing from the menu, I manually set the 'time zone' field to "Africa/Timbuktu" (a city in GMT that does not observe any DST) and voila! Times are displayed as I want. Now I'll try that in the field. Thanks again! -drake From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mueller, Doug Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:29 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Time Zone for UTC ** Drake, So, I found that the UI doesn't list GMT as a timezone by itself. I expected it to and I think it should myself... but that doesn't help you. I did go to http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/countries.htm to get a list of all countries that do not obey any type of daylight savings time scheme. Then, looking through that list to find countries that are in GMT zone that don't use daylight savings time. That includes Antarctica Gambia Ghana Guinea Bissau Iceland Liberia Mali Mauritania Morocco Senegal So, if you find a timezone for one of these countries..... You will get what you want - GMT without timezone adjustment. Doug Mueller From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Keller, Aaron Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:36 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Time Zone for UTC ** Interesting. Ok, I'll be a bit more specific. I have a date/time field: 'planned outage start'. At such time that field is changed, a filter pushes a "log" record to another form pushing field text of: ("planned outage schedule changed: planned outage start: " + $planned outage start$) In this scenario, the user's preference setting for 'time zone' is "Europe/London", which is shown as GMT+0:00, but in the summer is actually GMT+1:00. (I have also tried several others marked as "Greenwich Mean Time", such as "Africa/Casablanca, "Europe/Sarajevo", etc.) The midtier and arserver in these tests are both set to UTC at the OS level - e.g. GMT+0 with no DST. The user enters a date of "Sep 19, 2015 00:00:00" and the pushed log record is: Planned change schedule changed: Planned change start: 09/18/2015 11:00:00 PM So in summary, I'm looking for a setting for the 'Time Zone' field of the 'AR System User Preference' form which will be true GMT with no DST offset. I'll continue to try other time zone settings. I realize that this problem will go away in a few weeks, but thanks for your time on it. Thanks- -drake From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mueller, Doug Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:15 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Time Zone for UTC ** Drake, GMT = UTC They are the same. GMT DOES NOT obey daylight savings time. It is the same as UTC. IST or BST or CEST (if in Antarctica) or a handful of other options are all used for when you want daylight Savings Time offsets. So, you should be able to put GMT and get the desired result. (I actually thought you could put UTC as well, but checking some searches on the web I see that it seems that GMT is the successor to UTC so that term has replaced UTC in most libraries of timezones.) Have you tried using GMT and are getting offsets due to daylight savings time? If so, please report this as it should not be happening. I hope this helps, Doug Mueller From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Keller, Aaron Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:36 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Time Zone for UTC ** I have users that would like to have dates shown in Coordinated Universal Time - UTC. In other words, not just GMT+0, but also no Daylight Saving Time adjustment. But I cannot seem to find a time zone setting (in the 'AR System User Preference' form, 'time zone' field) to do this. I submitted a ticket to BMC, and got a call back telling me that there is no way to do that. Really? 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