I'm more interested in just testing out, as a service of their
certification program.  If I know something inside and out, it's a
waste of the instrcutors time and my time to sit through a class on
it.  The certification program should focus on making sure the people
holding the certification know their stuff and less on it as a money
making machine.

Axton Grams

On 3/23/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**
I don't think that's changed, Norm.  What I hope does change is the practice
that a company or two seems to have where they send their newbies through
all the training, and then expect them to pass the RAC class without any
real experience.  Most can't, and even worse, a few can, which means some
customer is getting someone with knowledge but no idea how to apply it to a
business setting.

The training is important, but not as important as real-life experience.  I
would like to see WBTs that give the user the ability to "test out" of
classes, for a small fee (say, equivalent to 1 day's class fee), so that
qualified people could advance up to their level of certification without
undue time and monetary investment.

Rick


On 3/23/07, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CG/SCWOE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> And I'd like to add to that list--did they ever modify the RAC or RSP or
> whatever it's called now such that a person need not take all the
> official Remedy training before they can sit for the certification exam?
> Kind of like Microsoft? With Microsoft you can buy a book, study it, and
> sit for the exam.  If you pass, congratulations, you're certified.  In
> the past--and probably still now--you had to sit through Remedy's
> bazillion dollar pre-req training classes before you could attempt the
> exam.  Is that still true?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Narayanan, Radhika
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:28 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: RAC / ATS
>
> Hi,
>
> A request to those of you who have appeared for RAC / ATS Certificate
> courses from BMC or is aware of it.
>
> 1. Could you please tell me what is the course pattern and examination
> pattern ?
> 2. How long each ?
> 3. Which version ? ARS 7.0.1 or 6.3 ? (Say in May 2007)
> 4. Descriptive Answers for Questions or Objective Questions ?
> 5. For the application development exercise in RAC , do they provide a
> PC with Remedy installed ready for us to develop an      application ?
> So, I don't have to carry a laptop, do I ?
> 6. Found an arslist thread on ATS. Thanks to Hall Chad - chahal. Do RAC
> candidates also have access to web/books during
>   the course ?
> 7. Is RAC an examination from day 1 or does it have training class(es)
> too ?
> 8. Should the application developed for RAC touch all the features
> offered by Remedy such as API,Flashboards,host Web  Services & consume
> with a .NET/Java Application,Incoming Email engine, customize .css ...?
> Or would it be on core ARS?
> 9. RAC: Would the application allotted to us be technically complex ,
> say for ex., Financial Accounting System or a general topic like
> Purchase Order Module ?
> 10. RAC: Should I submit a Requirements Spec, Technical Design document,
> unit test cases to instructor before  proceeding with the development ?
> 11. RAC: Should I bear in mind to limit the scope of my
> requirements/design to what I can complete in the given time
>    without trying to be over-ambitious ?
> 12. Any other useful tips ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Radhika
> Direct : +44 20718 20262
> Extn : 20262
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