Here's another endorsement...but for ColumnIT. We switched to them late last year and I have to say that the change has been noticeable from our end. In the last year we had support from BMC, the quality of assistance had been uneven at best: sometimes getting support staff who was pretty knowledgeable, and other times getting support staff who seemed to have been a recent "grad" of the Admin class that would provide what appeared to be canned responses to questions (in one case the response did not directly answer the question posed...after repeated attempts for a response on point I had to go to management to get the information I was seeking). Naturally, I had no idea what we were getting into by engaging Column. I have to say I've been pretty pleased. They have been responsive; they don't rely on the crutch of "send us your log files"; they call back; if need be they will set up a WebEx session and walk through various steps to troubleshoot a problem (I had them on for an hour and a half in one instance...they were very patient in their approach). Overall, we've been happy.
Joseph Kasell Network Management Integrator Telecommunications Division Navy Federal Credit Union Vienna, Virginia Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] L.COM> To Sent by: "Action arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Request System cc discussion list(ARSList)" Subject <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Support Policy? ORG> 04/19/2007 02:57 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG ------=_Part_58343_509886.1177009053768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Now that is a 'customer' endorsement. The kind that counts. Not only are they paying, but they are using! Don't get caught up in the partner sell jobs. This is the type of information you need to base your choices on. Susan On 4/19/07, Ben Cantatore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** > I would recommend TuringSMI support at this point and time. I've been > working with them since October 2006. My first opinion of them was what = the > hell did my boss get us into. I was used to the excellent support I used= to > get from BMC, coupled with the fact that ITSM was (and still is) buggy an= d > relatively few people were familiar, much less expert in it. Since those > early days, Turing has hired some quality individuals (many familiar name= s > from ARSlist) and I believe worked on their internal communications. I > still think they have a bit more growing pains to work out but they've do= ne > an execellent job of turning around their support. > > > > > > > *"Wilson, Bruce B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" < > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > > 04/18/2007 02:10 PM Please respond to > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > To > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc > Subject > New Support Policy? > > > > > ** > The trail is becoming more twisted=85 > > Apparently, when you now call the BMC support center with a new issue, yo= u > no longer speak to a support technician. > Instead, you speak to someone who takes some cursory notes and creates a > ticket for you. > Basically, it is the same thing as if you were to go online via Remedy > support and create your own ticket. > > I remember previous to this, you got someone who could not speak very goo= d > English and would attempt to solve your problem with the limited knowledg= e > they had and would then TEXT MESSAGE the BMC support engineer you previou= sly > were able to speak directly to. > > Add the fact that the on-line Remedy knowledge base is incredibly slow to > search and retrieve and you basically complete the poor support. > > We are paying thousands and thousands of dollars for incredibly poor > support that seems to continuously get worse. > What is next? > > > I am seriously considering utilizing a non-BMC service center for support= . > I am told at one vendor, the technicians go through a certification > program. > You get the same person each time you call so they get to become familiar > with you. > Does anyone have any good (or bad) experiences with non-BMC service cente= r > vendors? > > Sorry for venting, but enough is enough! > > > Bruce Wilson > C&S Remedy Administrator > Norfolk Southern Corporation > Atlanta, GA > > __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in > it___ > > __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in > it___ > > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ------=_Part_58343_509886.1177009053768 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ** <div>Now that is a 'customer' endorsement. The kind that coun= ts. Not only are they paying, but they are using! Don't get= caught up in the partner sell jobs. This is the type of information = you need to base your choices on. =20 </div> <div> </div> <div>Susan<br><br> </div> <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4/19/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">= Ben Cantatore</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ">Ben.Cantato= [EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0= px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">** <br><font face=3D"sans-serif"= size=3D"2">I would recommend TuringSMI support at this point and time. &nb= sp;I've been working with them since October 2006. My first opini= on of them was what the hell did my boss get us into. I was used to t= he excellent support I used to get from BMC, coupled with the fact that ITS= M was (and still is) buggy and relatively few people were familiar, much le= ss expert in it. Since those early days, Turing has hired some qualit= y individuals (many familiar names from ARSlist) and I believe worked on th= eir internal communications. I still think they have a bit more growi= ng pains to work out but they've done an execellent job of turning arou= nd their support. </font> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <table width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td width=3D"40%"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1"><b>"Wilson, Bru= ce B" <<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" target=3D"_blank">[EMAIL PROTECTED] RP.COM</a> ></b> </font><br><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">Sent by: "Act= ion Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <<a onclick=3D"return = top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG" = target=3D"_blank"> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a>></font>=20 <p><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">04/18/2007 02:10 PM</font>=20 <table border=3D"1"> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td bgcolor=3D"white"> <div align=3D"center"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">Please respond t= o<br><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"ma= ilto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG" target=3D"_blank">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a></font><= /div></td> </tr></tbody></table><br></p> <td width=3D"59%"> <table width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td> <div align=3D"right"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">To</font></div> <td><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1"><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenEx= tLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG" target=3D"_bl= ank">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a></font>=20 <tr valign=3D"top"> <td> <div align=3D"right"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">cc</font></div> <td> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td> <div align=3D"right"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">Subject</font></d= iv> <td><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">New Support Policy?</font></td></t= d></tr></td></td></tr></td></td></tr></tbody></table><br> <table> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td> <td></td></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td> <td><p></p></td></td></tr></tbody></table> <div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_1120b28bf403bf12_1"><br><br><br><font size= =3D"3">** </font><br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">The = trail is becoming more twisted=85</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"= #000080" size=3D"2"> </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Apparen= tly, when you now call the BMC support center with a new issue, you no long= er speak to a support technician.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"= #000080" size=3D"2"> Instead, you speak to someone who takes some cursory notes and creates a ti= cket for you.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">= Basically, it is the same thing as if you were to go online via Remedy supp= ort and create your own ticket. </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font>= <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">I remember previous = to this, you got someone who could not speak very good English and would at= tempt to solve your problem with the limited knowledge they had and would t= hen TEXT MESSAGE the BMC support engineer you previously were able to speak= directly to. </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font>= <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Add the fact that th= e on-line Remedy knowledge base is incredibly slow to search and retrieve a= nd you basically complete the poor support. </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font>= <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">We are paying thousa= nds and thousands of dollars for incredibly poor support that seems to cont= inuously get worse. </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">What is next?= </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font>= <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font> <br><f= ont face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> I am seriously considering utilizing a non-BMC service center for support.<= /font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">I am told at o= ne vendor, the technicians go through a certification program.</font> <br><= font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> You get the same person each time you call so they get to become familiar w= ith you.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Does = anyone have any good (or bad) experiences with non-BMC service center vendo= rs? </font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font>= <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Sorry for venting, b= ut enough is enough!</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size= =3D"2"> </font> <br> <font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> </font> <br><font f= ace=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Bruce Wilson</font> <br><font fa= ce=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">C&S Remedy Administrator</fon= t> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2"> Norfolk Southern Corporation</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000= 80" size=3D"2">Atlanta, GA</font>=20 <p><font size=3D"3">__20060125_______________________This posting was submi= tted with HTML in it___ </font> <p>__20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in= it___</p> <p></p></p></span></div></blockquote></div><br> __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ------=_Part_58343_509886.1177009053768-- _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"