Howard, I agree. Even with the latest incident I've had, I have gone out of my way to let the person who has been my primary contact know that I have appreciated her efforts and that if I sounded upset or angry it wasn't at her but rather at BMC and the recent trends that I have seen coming from their organization. Over the years I have worked with some great individuals from BMC\Remedy including Barb, Sean and Lenny. OK Lenny Warren isn't from their support side but he is one of the best trainers I have ever known, always helpful if you have a question and an all around great guy.
Shawn Rosenberry RSP and former RAC On 6/13/07, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
** Guys and Girls, After working for Remedy, then Peregrine and then BMC and watched the loss
of customer responsiveness, personnel and knowledge, I could not see using BMC/Remedy support as a first line support organization. Don't get me wrong, they have some very smart and gifted engineers working in all of the BMC offices around the world, they just don't have enough of them.
The smart way is to use an L1 support provider and then let them push any
issues that they can not resolve to BMC/Remedy.
I have had 3 critical issues, which impacted my end users or would have
stopped me from going live. Without using an L1 support provider I would have spent most of my time yelling at BMC and not doing other work.
So final note with the current BMC support model, find a good L1 support
provider! Also if you do end up working with one of the men or women in BMC/Remedy support try and remember they are trying to do their best.
Howard Richter On 6/12/07, strauss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > > You must not have ever worked with Microsoft premium or paid
support; IMHO, for server products, they have no competition. In my personal experience, they will not let you hang up the phone until they are satisfied that the problem has been solved (one call lasted from 1 AM to 4 AM - they remained on the toll-free line during all of the re-starts of DNS and AD), and then they follow up for several days afterwards to make sure that you completed all necessary actions to prevent reoccurrence of the problem, and they help you document the solution. I have only had to use it twice, but it was exceptional. Not to be confused with "free" support for consumer products, which NO ONE does well.
> > I must miss out on a lot of the frustration others have experienced by
not having/paying for BMC phone support. When I submit a new issue on the web it is usually accompanied by a long explanation of what I have seen and tried, and loads of log files and other data. These tickets don't spend much time with overseas frontline techs - they are quickly baffled/overwhelmed and escalate the ticket to someone who might know something. Once you reach the second level of BMC support, especially with some of the more experienced people, response tends to be much better and quite often they begin a steady interchange with the backline engineers on your behalf. If the problem is serious, they start calling me (I can't call them) and scheduling webexes with the engineers watching to see the problem in action. On the other hand, on those occasions when I just casually (or impatiently) toss a newly observed application error into the submission form without logs or other detail, I know that I can expect to pay for it later answering successive, inane questions from frontline techs who are just following their troubleshooting scripts. The process takes longer since I did not perform due diligence troubleshooting up front, and report all of my results in the initial ticket submission.
> > Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. > Remedy Database Administrator > University of North Texas Computing Center > http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/ > > > > ________________________________
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