Do you really think you will get an answer other than "as designed"? :-)
-- Jarl Yuppi yeee, got an ok to travel to Vancouver in october :-) On 7/10/07, Tony Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yup. And the second query (each taking about four minutes on our boxes) is: SELECT schemaId,fieldId,groupId,permission FROM field_permissions ORDER BY 1 ASC,2 ASC,3 ASC I wonder if we could get a defect filed, and have this looked at by engineering... and get an answer more than "as designed." -tony -- Tony Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 262-703-5911 Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 07/09/2007 05:55 PM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: ARS7 install with oracle 10G RAC ... the saga continues ... Remedy fetches information from it's data dictionary (e.g., field_disp_prop, field, etc.), then processes it in chunks of 100, 500, or 1000. So if you have a table field_dispprop that has 120k records and 500 records are processed at a time, 15 seconds per chunk, you end up with a start time that totals 3600 seconds (for that part of the startup). If you add a -t parameter to arserverd in the armonitor.conf file, a special startup log file is created. The log file will look something like this: Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6577 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Set up thread control block with key = 0 Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6582 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize thread local storage block Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6583 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize mutiple-byte environment Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6585 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> InstallDir = /u01/arsystem/arsdev Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6587 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize Server utility Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6599 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize License Library Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6602 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> LicenseFilename = /etc/arsystem/arsdev/arsystem.lic Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6603 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize Language setting and locale Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6610 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize the Decimal Math libray Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6610 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Open shared catalog Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6648 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Load encryption shared library Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6653 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Load encryption static functions Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6654 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize default configuration information Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6654 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Create Mutexes Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6655 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize parse environment Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6657 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize date time information Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6659 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize notification strings Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6659 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize RPC queue type strings Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6660 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize filter strings Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6662 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize escalation strings Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6662 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Load system configuration file Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6669 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> arsCodeSet=windows-1252[0] arDbCodeSet=windows-1252[0] Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6670 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize pending lists Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6671 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Create cache read write lock Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6671 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Create full text status read write lock Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6672 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize fork proxy Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6672 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Check licensing Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6693 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize user cache Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6707 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Open log file Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6745 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize XML parser Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6782 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize thread list Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6784 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Check multiple servers Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6787 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize dead thread list Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6790 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Initialize timed calls Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6792 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> CreateRPCQueue(min=1, max=1, rpc=390600) Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.6793 <Startup> <TID:3086968512> Await cache ready... Jul 09 2007 18:29:06.8988 <Startup> <TID:0030571424> InitializeServerCache: LoadInitialSchemaInfo Begin Jul 09 2007 18:29:11.7241 <Startup> <TID:0030571424> Begin LoadDisplayInfoList Jul 09 2007 18:29:25.6076 <Startup> <TID:0030571424> LoadDisplayInfoList: 500 rows Jul 09 2007 18:29:42.7008 <Startup> <TID:0030571424> LoadDisplayInfoList: 1000 rows If you then review the sql that is sent to the db while the server is unavailable, you will see this statement, followed by silence: SELECT schemaId,fieldId,vuiId,propShort,propLong FROM field_dispprop ORDER BY 1 ASC, 2 ASC, 3 ASC What is happening here is that arserverd fetches the field display property info, then processes it 500 records at a time. Depending on the size of your server (number of forms, views, fields, etc), there may be a couple of sql statements that are followed by a pause. What is happening internally is anyone's guess; I would guess that they are processing X rows at a time to operate within certain memory constraints, and 'maybe' in a horribly inefficient way. Some things are for certain though; (1) a lot of data is transferred from the db to the arserver. My test server, which has 3293 rows in field_dispprop (pretty much a base arserver install) sends 411K of data over the wire. (2) the field_dispprop data is processed in chunks of 500 (at least on Linux). Axton Grams On 7/9/07, Andrew Hicox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > Hello everyone: > > I've managed to get through the (incredibly flawed) solaris 10 arsystem 7 > install. > This is 7.0.01 patch 2. > > I'm using oracle 10G client library with a remote database on an oracle 10 > Rapid Application Cluster. > > So ... now the server is INCREDIBLY slow to start. > > The server is configured to run on a TCP port (10000). > When I issue the 'arsystem start' command, I get the usual output on the > console indicating that the server has started. > > However, the TCP port is not listening, and of course, no clients can > connect to the server. > > > If I wait (approx 7 minutes), I will see the following output on the > console: > > (ARNOTE 0) > Server indicates that it's up. > > (ARNOTE 0) > ARMonitor child process (pid:29595) started. > ./arplugin > > Action Request System(R) Fork Daemon Version 7.0.01 patch 002 > 200704021644 > Copyright (c) 2000 - 2006 BMC Software, Inc. > All rights reserved. > > Action Request System(R) Plug-In Server Version 7.0.01 patch 002 > 200704021644 > Copyright (c) 2001 - 2006 BMC Software, Inc. > All rights reserved. > Loaded Web Services plugin properly > > After the above, the TCP port opens up and clients can connect, and it seems > to work well enough. > > What I presume is happening here is that arserverd must issue some sort of > indication that it's completed start up so that arforkd and armonitor can do > their thing and start listeners and plugins, and that arserverd is for some > reason taking on average 7 minutes to do that. > > I can't manage to get ANY sort of logging during the 7 minutes of mystery. > is there some way to figgure out what the heck is going on durring this > period of time (is it timing out DNS? is the db slow to respond? is it > waiting on disk access? what is it doing?). > > We have an identical set up in our dev lab, with the exception that the > database server is not a RAC and it's installed on the same machine. The > startup is quite snappy on that setup. > > There don't appear to be any issues with network latency between the remedy > server and the RAC. > > Anyone ever seen this before? > Any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Andrew
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