I think I understand what you're trying to do.  You're looking to create a 
history of the email transactions sent to each external company? I find that 
the data in the Email messages form is hard to read.  The info is there but 
digging through all the fields and seeing the actual message is tough.  

Dave
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Sent: Mon Sep 17 22:42:15 2007
Subject: Re: Email v7 - Copying original form

** 
David and Carey,
 
I saw all of those special fields and suspected they may be an issue.  I'll 
have to just make a form and give the fields IDs of my choice.  I don't need 
all the fields on the original form anyways.
 
You'd think that if it didn't want to use those field IDs again, on save it 
would automatically use random field IDs.  
 
It must be that most people have created their own form.
 
Thanks for the input,
Susan

 
On 9/17/07, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        Susan,
        
        Like most "Core ARS forms" (my term) the form is identified by a set
        of ARS fields with specific field ID's. The ARS server is likely 
        preventing you from violating a "golden rule" of only have one "Email
        Messages" form.
        
        You can work around this.. kind of ...
        
        By copying the fields to a new form and either assigning new field 
        ID's or letting the Admin tool auto pick them. ( I strongly suggest
        that you set them in accordance to your design practices. )
        
        More specifically arstruct.h (v6.3) identifies the following fields
        for that form. I have no idea if you only change one if the field ID's 
        if that is "enough" to avoid the golden rule or not. ( You might have
        to avoid all of the field ID's below and possibly others too.)
        
        /* Reserved fields for the Email Message form */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CNTNT_ATTCHMNT_ENCODING      18065L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_VALUES_ATTCHMNT_ENCODING     18066L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_ID                       18082L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_DATE_SENT                    18083L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_DATE_RECEIVED                18084L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_TO                           18085L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FROM                         18086L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_REPLY_TO                     18087L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CC                           18088L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_BCC                          18089L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SUBJECT                      18090L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_BODY                     18091L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_TYPE                     18092L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MAILBOX_ID                   18093L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ARSYS_SVR                    18094L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCHMNT_POOL                18095L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_PRIORITY                     18096L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SENT_AT                      18097L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_PARSE_MSG                    18098L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SEND_MSG                     18099L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_EMAIL                        18100L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ARSYS_FORM                   18101L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CONTENT_TMP                  18102L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ORGANIZATION                 18103L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CONTENT                      18104L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FIELD_VALUE                  18106L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_VALUES                       18107L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HEADER_TMP_ID                18108L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FOOTER_TEMPLATE              18109L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_QUALIFICATION                18110L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ARSYS_TCP_PORT               18111L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ARSYS_RPC                    18112L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FORM_ID                      19006L   /* 
30014L */ 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_LOG_MSG_TXT
        AR_RESERV_EMAIL_ERR_LOG_MSG_TXT /* 18022L */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HDR_TMP_NAME                 18135L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CNTNT_TMP_NAME               18136L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FTR_TMP_NAME                 18137L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MAILBOX_NAME                 18139L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HTML_CNTNT                   18140L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HTML_CNTNT_ATTCHMNT_ENCODE   18141L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_REPLY                        18149L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SEND_EMAIL                   18150L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SAVE
        AR_RESERV_EMAIL_ATTCH_SAVE /* 18151L */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_TBL_FLD                18152L   /* 
reused */ 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_ID_CLMN                18153L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_NAME_CLMN              18154L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_TYPE_CLMN              18155L   /* 
reused */ 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ERR_TABLE                    18157L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CLMN3                        18158L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CLMN7                        18159L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CLMN8                        18160L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_LOG_MSG_ID                   18161L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_PG_HLDR                  18162L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_TAB                      18163L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_TAB                    18164L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ADVANCE_OPT_TAB              18165L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MSG_INFO_TAB                 18166L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ERROR_TAB                    18167L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_SUPPORT                  18168L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_BODY_PG_HLDR                 18169L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HTML_BODY_PG                 18170L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ADD_ATTCH                    18171L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_MOD_ATTCH                    18172L   /* 
reused */ 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_DEL_ATTCH                    18173L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_EXISTING_ATTCH               18174L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_EXISTING_ATTCH_ID            18175L   /* 
reused */ 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ADD_EXISTING                 18176L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_REFRESH_TBL                  18177L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_PG_HLDR2                     18178L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_TMP_TAB                      18179L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_VAR_REPLACE_TAB              18180L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH_ALTERNATIVE            18181L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_PLAIN_TXT_BODY_PG            18191L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_FORM_HDR_LABEL
        AR_RESERV_EMAIL_ASSOC_FORM_HDR_LABEL /* 18193L */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_SUB_HDR_LABEL                18224L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_RTF_CONTENT                  18209L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HIDDEN_PG_HLDR
        AR_RESERV_EMAIL_ASSOC_HIDDEN_PG_HLDR /* 18210L */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTACHMENT_GUID_COLUMN       18212L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_RTF_CONTENT_ENCODE           18215L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_INCOMING_MAILBOX_ID          18220L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_HTML_BODY                    18290L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_READ_STAT                18291L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_MAX_RETRIES              18292L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_RETRY_COUNT              18293L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_SMTP_SVR_RET_CODE        18294L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_LAST_LOG_ENTRY           18295L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_EMAIL_LOG                18296L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_ATTCH                        18297L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_CRM_SUBMITTED_FORM           18298L   /* 
reused */
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_IN_REPLY_TO                  18299L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_DISPLAY_ADVANCED_OPT         18304L 
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_COLUMN                       18235L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_COLUMN2                      18236L
        #define AR_RESERV_EMAIL_MSG_COLUMN4                      18237L
        
        --
        Carey Matthew Black 
        Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
        ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
        
        Love, then teach
        Solution = People + Process + Tools
        Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
        
        
        
        On 9/17/07, Susan Palmer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > **
        > Hi all,
        >
        > Since our system is more crm than helpdesk and we're implementing the 
v7
        > Email system I want to be able to relate all email messages we send 
to our 
        > customers to their Site records.  We want to be able to view them 
whether
        > we're on their Sire record, Change, Task or HD records.  Sounds pretty
        > straight forward.
        >
        > Well originally I thought I could just use the AR System Email 
Messages form 
        > and I created the additional fields I needed on the form.  I couldn't 
get
        > the workflow to write to the record.  So then I thought it would be 
better
        > to save that form with our own naming convention so I could delete 
the 
        > records from the original form keeping performance levels good.
        >
        > But I cannot do a Save As Form on that form.  I get an error 55 (The 
listed
        > item was not successfully imported .... associated messages ... but 
there 
        > isn't any so I don't know what the issue is.)
        >
        > I don't see any indication of what the problem is in either the api 
or sql
        > logs.
        >
        > I know I could make the form from scratch and create the fields but 
I'm 
        > wondering what the issue is with the Save As.  Anyone else come 
across this?
        >
        > Thanks for your help,
        > Susan
        >
        > ARS v701P2
        > Oracle 10g
        > Windows 2003
        > Admin ARs v701P3 
        > Windows XP
        >
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