Dear BMC, would that pronouncement include any change that fixes a broken
process months before BMC gets around to it?

(pause for response, hear only crickets chirping...)

Didn't think so.

Rick

On 10/3/07, Seth Wrye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I was told in my most recent CMDB training class from the instructor,
> "Any change to the OTB product is a bad change".  Now that made me
> shudder...  I wonder if the OTB products will eventually be locked apps?
>
> Seth
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Kaiser
> Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
> Sent: Wed 10/3/2007 4:56 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: What is everyone doing to keeping track of created
> Forms/AL/Filters...ect from out of the box ones
>
>
>
> Matt's is a very good suggestion.
>
> The very big pitfall that always lurks is when an OOB workflow object
> becomes something(s) else due to a BMC patch or upgrade.
>
> For example, suppose you have an OOB Active Link named OOB:ActiveLink1.
>
> Using a prefix, you create your "custom" version of the object and
> disable the original.  So now you have OOB:ActiveLink1 and, say,
> New:OOB:ActiveLink1.
>
> But now BMC decides OOB:ActiveLink1 will now be "enhanced" to become
> OOB:ActiveLink2 and OOB:ActiveLink3.  In other words, to add
> functionality, they replaced the original AL with two (or more) new ones
> that are named differently.
>
> Now you have:
>
> New:OOB:ActiveLink1
> OOB:ActiveLink2
> OOB:ActiveLink3
>
> When you should only have (if you had never jumped off the cliff and
> customized the OOB product):
>
> OOB:ActiveLink2
> OOB:ActiveLink3
>
> Now you have workflow whose names are not consistent that are likely
> performing duplicated and/or extraneous actions.
>
> Makes one shudder at the thought of upgrading...
>
> Norm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:34 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: What is everyone doing to keeping track of created
> Forms/AL/Filters...ect from out of the box ones
>
> I am a big fan of packing lists for development processes.
>
> I would suggest that you create at least two packing lists.
>
> A) OOB objects that were replaced/changed/disabled
>   and
> B) New objects that were added to the OOB
>
> Those two lists would give you a shot at being able to detect how your
> changes play out in the "new version". (After the install of the
> upgrade/patch you view those packing lists and see if any of the
> objects were changed during the install/upgrade. If so, then they
> require very close review.)
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.

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