Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they should be.

hbr


On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Shawn, Right ON!....
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> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if you are
> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving away your
> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be set at 100
> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in fact I
> go 12% tops.  Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. It's not
> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are needed and will
> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard.
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> Thank you,
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> -j
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> *Joe Tortolero*
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> *Remedy Consultant*
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area
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>
> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less than the
> rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people.  You can
> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten years just
> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no person
> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown system for
> less than $80k/year anywhere.  You can get that much at a job in Oklahoma or
> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area.  It's all
> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you have to
> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot of
> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too.
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> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest looking
> at a minimum of $125/hour.  I know BMC charges twice that for their senior
> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge similar
> rates.  Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour from your
> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than $100/hr)  is
> keeping too much.  When I first did consulting I was ripped off a few times
> because I went through too many layers, where you have a small consulting
> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm taking 15%,
> who then deals directly with the client.  In fact, I remember working with a
> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was paying
> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the middle
> who each took their cut.  When consulting, always ask who the direct client
> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of another
> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the client.
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> Shawn Pierson
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