I'm all for getting paid more as much as the next person, but we also need to realize that the more we require, then the fewer jobs there will be. A lot of companies are right on the teetering edge of if they can afford remedy or not. If we push our salary too much, then those companies will not be able to continue using remedy, especially if they cannot find a decent developer that will work for what they can pay him/her.
Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr., RSP Remedy Engineer Leader Communications, Inc. http://www.5pointleader.com http://www.lcibest.com Best Product, Best People, Best PriceTM An ISO 9001:2000 Certified, CMMI(r) Level 3 Rated Company ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Salary in Bay Area ** I like that ... an activist in the group !!! Susan On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they should be. hbr On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: ** Shawn, Right ON!.... Remedy peeps...good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves...if you are willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving away your HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be set at 100 minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in fact I go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. It's not like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers...we are needed and will be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. Thank you, -j Joe Tortolero Remedy Consultant Desk - 561-682-2780 Cell - 561-665-1363 [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [%20] ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Salary in Bay Area That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less than the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people. You can probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten years just about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no person with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown system for less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in Oklahoma or Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. It's all about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you have to live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot of companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too. As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest looking at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for their senior people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge similar rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour from your rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than $100/hr) is keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off a few times because I went through too many layers, where you have a small consulting firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm taking 15%, who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember working with a guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was paying $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the middle who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the direct client is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of another consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the client. Shawn Pierson __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com<http://www.rmsportal.com/> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com<http://www.rmsportal.com/> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ -- Howard Richter Red Hat Certified Technician CompTIA Linux+ Certified ITIL Foundation Certified E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com<http://www.rmsportal.com/> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
