Not only that, but the market had crashed too, and even worse, peregrine acquired Remedy, which initially questioned peregrine's commitment to ARS. That in itself put many implementation projects on hold back then.
-Guillaume -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Rick Cook Sent: Tue 01/06/09 12:41 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards As I recall, 1300 people attended the rug after the dot com bust. The market wasn't any worse then than now. Did any BMC customer or partner get asked whether they would attend? Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "VanSickle, James W" <james.vansic...@contractor.cmc.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:27:18 To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards There is also another side to this as well. How many companies in the current financial climate can or are willing to send some or all of their Remedy teams to such a conference? If I was a manager trying to keep costs down, I might have a difficult time justifying plane tickets, hotel fees, car rental, and other travel expenses for such a conference. BMC could have some very justified fears that attendance would be too low to be worth the effort, and that a number of third-party vendors may also keep their staff away in efforts to save costs. James Van Sickle Remedy Developer Office: 972-409-4902 Mobile: 214-263-9340 -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:08 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Roger, on the surface that makes sense. But you can bet they haven't stopped spending money on sales and marketing. And RUG is certainly that. It is the one event they put on that stirs the pot, so to speak. They must think there is no money to be made right now. Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Nall, Roger" <roger.n...@t-mobile.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:55:58 To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards I am sure no one can be surprised at this. They just laid-off 350 employees. My guess would be they don't have much in the way of discretionary money. It is really too bad but that is they way of the world these days. Roger A. Nall Manager, OSSNMS Remedy T-Mobile, USA Desk:972-464-3712 NEW Cell: 973-652-6723 FAX: sf49fanv AIM IM RogerNall Yahoo IM -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:53 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards I have an issue with attending any conference that is hosted by one of the third party vendors. Too easy to become unbalanced and geared toward messages from that particular vendor. Just my opinion. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jackie Morris Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:45 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards ColumnIT has done events similar to RUGs, only to a smaller, more local group. Keynote address, guest speakers, tutorial sessions and customer presentations every year in Atlantic City for the past few years. Maybe they would pick this up?? -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:26 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards How much can it possibly cost to put on one of these? Isn't the entry fees of the people enough to cover the costs? I think that if someone on the list was motivated enough, they might could even make some money by putting it on. If you have it somewhere, like here in OKC, it would be a lot cheaper, and in the middle of the US, so it would be easier for everyone to attend. What is usually the admission fees at the RUGs in the past, I've never been to one? If you charge an admission fee to the people, then a booth fee for the presentations, those fees should pay for themselves, and shouldn't have to be too much. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Alan Blake Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:21 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards ** Daniel, We submitted a proposal for presentation at the 2009 UserWorld on Knowledge Management Best Practices. We want to be part of an event to share this and would be willing to travel or participate in a virtual conference. I suggest a LinkedIn group. -Alan Alan Blake Knowlysis | Services Manager | Office: 801.224.0002 ext 105 ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:02 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADM: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Apparently not only did they botch up the 2008, They have decided to follow that up with just not trying for 2009 (they don't say it won't happen, just they will not host it which is not Necessarily the same thing, but this year probably is). Guess that makes the ARSlist the UserWorld 2009, meeting from now to the end of the year, At least for the BMC BSM/Atrium/Remedy crowd. I will let others discuss if this is a good fiscal move or not. I think the value Of the conference outweighs the costs, but I only have to pay the bill for me. In any event, or lack thereof, this means I will be doing the following: 1) Returning to the Vote for the ARSlist Awards for 2008 2) Planning for some set of events that can allow us to properly Do the ARSlist Awards 2009 and provide a method for us all to Share our discoveries of 2009. This may mean a multi-city simultaneous conference, Or setting up a virtual conference. 3) Exploring other on-line avenues to expand what the ARSlist/WWRUG can provide To replace our annual conference networking ability. The first is a FaceBook Group But if folks have other thoughts please let me know ....... 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