All,
 
BMC has created a new defect ref for this issue.
 
SW00324113 
 
Kind Regards Conny

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Von: Martin, Conny 
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2009 16:06
An: '[email protected]'
Betreff: AW: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
RESOLVED


Howard,
 
I reported this to BMC. I'm waiting for response. I'll let you know the
result.
 
Kind Regards Conny

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Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Charles Baldi
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2009 16:04
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
RESOLVED


** 
Howard,
 
As others on the thread have said, the 4k limit appears to be a database
one.  The 2k limit is a bug.
 
Chuck


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Howard Richter <[email protected]>
wrote:


        ** 
        Chuck,
         
        Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or
a new feature going forward?
         
        Howard
        
        
        On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi
<[email protected]> wrote:
        

                ** 
                All,
                I was able to update the table query in question.  Here
is what I did:
                 
                1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks
Conny).  This allows creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096
chars).
                 
                2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I
could barely add the EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took
the OOB qual and removed a pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin
tool adds to the qual, such as those around the "=", etc.  This got the
OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
                 
                3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the
qual, the addition would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added
another "AND EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window
Open. (thanks Scott and others).
                 
                The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make
room.  It is important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later
because if you ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the
Admin tool will barf again because it will have expanded the qual with
the extra spaces again so that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy
avoids having to remove all the spaces again. 
                 
                Thanks again,
                Chuck Baldi


                 
                On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi
<[email protected]> wrote:
                

                        Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what
I can get to work.  FYI my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is
at 7.1p5.
                         
                        I will let you all know the result.
                         
                        Regards,
                        Chuck Baldi
                        
                        
                        On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew
Black <[email protected]> wrote:
                        

                                However, you should also be warned that
in at least a previous version
                                (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a
practical limit to the length of
                                these qualifications. I was never clear
if it was a RDBMS limitation
                                or an ARS limitation, but I remember a
number like 4000 characters as
                                an upper limit to what actually works.
Which was true even if you used
                                the EXTERNAL() operator.
                                
                                --
                                Carey Matthew Black
                                BMC Remedy AR System Skilled
Professional (BRSP)
                                ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
                                
                                Love, then teach
                                Solution = People + Process + Tools
                                Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
                                



                                On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott
Illari <[email protected]> wrote:
                                > **
                                >
                                > Chuck,
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > I would follow these steps
                                >
                                > 1)                  Create a hidden
display only character field on the
                                > form. Just be sure the DB size of the
field is 0 to hold the qualification
                                > if it ever grows.
                                >
                                > 2)                  Update the table
field so the qualification is
                                > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
                                >
                                > 3)                  Have an Active
Link set the display only field on Window
                                > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever
works for you)
                                >
                                > 4)                  Have the next
action perform a Change Fields that
                                > refreshes the table.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Hope that helps.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Scott Illari
                                >
                                > 908-601-8948
                                >
                                > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList)
                                > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Charles Baldi
                                > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009
5:30 PM
                                > To: [email protected]
                                > Subject: How to save huge qual string
in Table / Tree Property?
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > **
                                >
                                > Hello all,
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > I am trying to update the Table / Tree
Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
                                > Search form to let users search for
some of their custom fields.  However,
                                > the Qualification string is so large
that the Admin tool will not let me add
                                > to it.  I can't even re-paste the
original qualification back into the field
                                > if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a
trick for pasting a HUGE qualification
                                > string here.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Does anyone know how to do this?
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > ARS 7.1 p5
                                > ITSM 7.0.03 p8
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Thanks in advance,
                                >
                                > Chuck Baldi
                                
                                
        
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