Nicky,

That works as well.

Stan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nicky Madjarov 
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
  Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Bug Tracking and ITSM suite


  ** 
  Stan.

  I hope you are not going to be angry on me if I slightly change the process 
you are suggesting (exactly like Bill Belichick would do with the palybooks of 
the other fellow coaches when he put hans on them).

  1. user submits incident report
  2. analyst troubleshoots, confirms the application deffect and a. creates 
problem record; b. relates the incident to the problem and then closes the 
incident; 
  3. problem management investigates root cause and possible solutions, in the 
mean time any new incidents reporting the same deffect are related to the 
problem record.
  4. management approves solution (I don't believe it will be the CAB at this 
point)
  5. project is initiated (in the Action Program Manager or other release mgmt 
tool) for implementing the approved solution
  6. change is initiated when the solution is ready
  7. solution is implemented, CMDB is updated if necessary, change and problem 
are closed.

  Open deffect = persisting problem in your environment

  There you go, ITIL in action .... 

  Regards,

  Nicky Madjarov
  phone: 973-202-4278
  Find out how to bust your AR System performance @
  http://www.SpeedUpARS.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Stan Feinstein 
    Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
    To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
    Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:34 AM
    Subject: Re: Bug Tracking and ITSM suite


    ** 
    Another idea.  One of the users of our ActionProgram Manager has the 
following bug tracking process for bug reports from users.  They said:
    1. Bug reports from users come into the help desk application.
    2. Because they are bug reports, they are assigned to the Change Control 
Board.
    3. The Change Control Board looks at it and decides if it is a change or a 
project.
    If it's a project, use the Bug Fix Project Plan template to spawn the 
project record and all the tasks in the template.
    4. The last task is "Implement the fix" and that's done in Operations, so 
when they come to that task, use workflow to create a change request, and use 
workflow to notify the person in Operations that there is a new change request.
    5. The person in Operations implements the fix and closes the change 
request.  When they do, use workflow to a) close the last task in the project, 
b) close the project record since all of the tasks are completed (standard in 
ActionProgram Manager anyway), c) close the original help desk ticket, and d) 
notify the user that the bug has been fixed.

    Very cool.

    When you think about the thread last week about incorporating an SDLC and 
release management, that's another variation of this same concept:  the idea of 
incorporating program management functionality into your workflow processes.  
Our users tell us that this is one of the big benefits of using a Remedy-based 
program management system. 

    Stan.
    w. 310-230-1722. 
    www.pri-us.com

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Axton 
      Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
      To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:36 PM
      Subject: Re: Bug Tracking and ITSM suite


      ** Well said

      Axton Grams


      On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lyle Taylor <tayl...@ldschurch.org> wrote:

        ** 
        The ITSM suite is not really meant for tracking bugs.  If you want an 
application that resides in Remedy, I believe that BMC does sell an application 
intended for that purpose.  If you don’t care if it’s in Remedy, then there are 
quite a number of tools out there (both free and commercial) for tracking 
defects and enhancement requests.  For example, I believe you can use Bugzilla 
for free.  In any case, I would recommend not trying to shove a square peg in a 
round hole by trying to fit it into ITSM somehow.  Find an actual bug-tracking 
tool that meets your needs and use that.  You could also potentially write your 
own little custom Remedy app for tracking bugs if you wanted.  That would at 
least let you easily create a bug directly from an Incident ticket if you 
wanted.



        Lyle



        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ron Legters
        Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:11 PM
        To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
        Subject: Bug Tracking and ITSM suite



        ** 

        My user base has been using Incident Management as a de facto bug 
tracking tool for some time now. They just set an Incident to ‘Pending’ and 
when they get around to fixing the bug, they resolve the Incident. This results 
in Incidents being in ‘Pending’ for literally years sometimes. Now our senior 
management would like us to start paying more attention to our Mean Time to 
Repair statistic, and having Incidents open for a really long time makes that 
stat less reliable. I also just got a request from someone to add a ‘Status 
Reason’ of ‘Bug Fix’ to the Pending Status, and I said ‘I don’t think we want 
to do that’. I don’t know where in the ITSM Suite to point her, though for a 
better bug tracking tool. 



        Could we use ‘Known Errors’ in Problem Management as a sort of Bug 
Tracker? What are other shops doing?



        We’re currently on ITSM 7.



        Thanks,
        Ron Legters
        Tools Administrator 
        Production and Quality Control 
        Univar USA Inc.
        425.889.3952 Office
        425.889.4111 Fax 
        www.univarusa.com 



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