Axton is always the man:)

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:18:40 -0600, Lyle Taylor wrote
> Thank you for this excellent information, Axton.  I think this could 
> potentially account for some of what I've seen here.  I'll have to 
> go through and make sure all our config files are set up correctly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lyle
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Monday, June 
> 29, 2009 6:38 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Test System to 
> Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? what is BMC recommendation?
> 
> ** I believe this can still be an issue even in later versions 
> depending on how the server is configured.  Say the hostname of the 
> arserver host is remedy1, it has ip address 10.1.1.1 and the 
> following dns aliases: remedy remedy.company.com<http://remedy.company.com>
> ars
> ars.company.com<http://ars.company.com>
> 
> Let's say the Server-Name parameter in ar.conf has a value of remedy1.
> 
> If you connect using the admin tool to the arserver with a hostname 
> of remedy, that name will be embedded in the workflow unless you 
> have configured the proper IP-Name parameters in ar.conf.  The valid 
> IP-Name parameters would be any hostname with which arserver can be 
> accessed, so you would want the following lines in ar.conf:
> 
> IP-Name: remedy
> IP-Name: remedy.company.com<http://remedy.company.com>
> IP-Name: ars
> IP-Name: ars.company.com<http://ars.company.com>
> 
> This problem is more common with arsystem configurations where 
> multiple arservers are in use.  Take the following example:
> 
> hostname for arserver1: remedy01 (10.0.0.1)
> hostname for arserver2: remedy02 (10.0.0.2)
> hostname for arserver3: remedy03 (10.0.0.3)
> 
> hostname for load balancer: remedy (10.1.0.1)
> Aliases/other names for load balancer: arsystem, 
arsystem.company.com<http://arsystem.company.com>
> Aliases/other names for remedy01: arsvr01, 
> arsvr01.company.com<http://arsvr01.company.com>, 
remedy01.company.com<http://remedy01.company.com>
> Aliases/other names for remedy02: arsvr02, 
> arsvr02.company.com<http://arsvr02.company.com>, 
remedy02.company.com<http://remedy02.company.com>
> Aliases/other names for remedy03: arsvr03, 
> arsvr03.company.com<http://arsvr03.company.com>, 
remedy03.company.com<http://remedy03.company.com>
> 
> You could now potentially access each arserver using several names 
> (strings).  The ar.conf (IP-Name parameters) needs to be different 
> on each arserver.
> 
> The IP-Name parameter seems to be used to parse the workflow when 
> committing workflow to the db; it is used to strip server name 
> references and replace them with the desired @ symbol (global local 
> server reference).  If no match is found to Server-Name or IP-Name,
>  the workflow will think the reference is to and external ARServer 
> and store the actual name of the server in the workflow when written 
> to the db.
> 
> Axton Grams
> 
> These are my opinions and observations.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Shellman, 
> 
David<dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com<mailto:dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.c
om>> wrote:
> > Lee,
> >
> > The 4.x versions and 5.x versions were a bugger with retaining server and 
IP
> > address information. There were scripts that could be run against def 
files
> > to clean up remainder of server info that remained in the files. Menus 
were
> > the worst offenders.
> >
> > I don't remember any issues with exporting as server independent with 6.x
> > nor have I seen any with 7.0.1.
> > Dave
> > -------------------------
> > 
dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com<mailto:dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com>
> > (Wireless)
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > Sent: Mon Jun 29 18:27:19 2009
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > Server Name  AND IP address.
> >
> > Just as a precaution, I'd suggest that when you look for server references
> > that you include searches for IP addresses.  We moved a 5.x server from 
one
> > segment to another.  We kept the server name the same but the IP address
> > changed.  We found hundreds of IP references imbedded in the code that
> > prevented the server from coming up.   There is a knowledge base 
instruction
> > on a fix this in MSSQL DB's. BMC Support folks sent us the instructions.  
I
> > don't know if the same is true for other systems since our 7.0 install 
was a
> > clean install with limited data migration and no custom code.
> >
> > Folks probably know to equate the server name and IP address, but it 
caught
> > us a little off guard at the time.
> >
> > Lee Marsh
> >
> >
> >         *************************************
> >         Lee Marsh
> >         Remedy Administrator
> >         BAE Systems Office Automation Systems Team
> >         Antitrust Division, U.S. Department of Justice
> >         Phone:  202-305-9725
> >         Cell:  202-528-1749
> >         Email: lee.ma...@usdoj.gov<mailto:lee.ma...@usdoj.gov> 
<mailto:lee.ma...@usdoj.gov<mailto:lee.ma...@usdoj.gov>>
> >         *************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>]
> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:10 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ?
> > what is BMC recommendation?
> >
> >
> > I would like to verify if I do or don't.  In looking at diffs between our
> > environments in Migrator, I've seen system-maintained code that _appeared_
> > to have specific server references in it, if you can trust Migrator here.
> > They were usually in the Approval module, I think, but there may have been
> > others.  We also have a fair amount of custom code that has been 
maintained
> > by various people over time, and I would like to make sure that we don't
> > have things that need to be fixed there (I have found a few cases as I've
> > worked on parts of the system, and I'd like to find out if there are 
more).
> >
> > We've got half of the ITSM suite, so I'm not too keen on trying to export 
it
> > all - I know we've tried in the past (albeit with the rest of the suite
> > installed) and never succeeded.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of 
Shellman, David
> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:59 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > Not sure what you have but exporting all our workflow for custom helpdesk,
> > surveys, contract maintenance, bug tracking, modeling service requests,
> > Telecommunication billing, etc takes only a few minutes.
> >
> > Maybe we need to step back.  Do you know you have workflow that has the
> > server name embedded in it?  Or are you just concerned that you have?
> > Dave
> > -------------------------
> > 
dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com<mailto:dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com>
> > (Wireless)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > Sent: Mon Jun 29 16:41:00 2009
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > Exporting all the workflow would be way too time consuming.  I'm thinking
> > (hoping) there must be an easier way to find out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of 
Shellman, David
> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:35 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > Lyle,
> >
> > Export all the workflow.  Make sure when you export, the checkbox for 
export
> > as server independent is checked.  This should remove workflow that is
> > linked to the server.
> >
> > It's not guaranteed as there could be some custom workflow that may some 
how
> > reference the server.  As Raj noted you can open the def file with 
notepad,
> > wordpad, notepad++, etc and search for instances of the server name.
> > Dave
> > -------------------------
> > 
dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com<mailto:dave.shell...@tycoelectronics.com>
> > (Wireless)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 
<arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>>
> > Sent: Mon Jun 29 16:24:18 2009
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > What's an easy way to locate workflow that has specific server references 
in
> > it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Ken 
Pritchard
> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:43 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > I just did something similar with HP-UX (Remedy V6.3).  In my case, I 
hooked
> > a new server into a servergroup (db was the same).
> >
> > Needed to change two items in the ar.conf file (IP addr and SERVERNAME
> > entries), adjust the armonitor.conf file to reflect new servername and
> > remove all licenses that were brought over from the prior server.  Needed 
to
> > have the /remedy and /etc/arsystem dir structures restored.  Had to make
> > sure the database name was in the tnsnames.ora file on the new server.
> >
> > We also had the source server hooked in a cluster (so the arsystem file in
> > /remedy/<svrname>/bin also needed a modification since there was a
> > servername embedded in that file.
> >
> > Once I did the above, the server came up in evaluation mode and I was able
> > to apply the new licenses.
> >
> > One of the important things to look at is that the workflow in your ARS
> > system needs to be server independent.  If there are references to 
specific
> > servers in your workflow, you'll need to clean the workflow to make it
> > server independent.
> >
> > - pritch
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of 
Axton
> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:03 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: Test System to Production System, Would Ghost Image work ? 
what
> > is BMC recommendation?
> >
> > What OS are you dealing with?
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, 
Raj<ravi6...@gmail.com<mailto:ravi6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I completed fresh install of ARS 7.5.00 Patch 001/ITSM 7.5.01 Patch
> >> 001 on a test system.
> >> Now, next task is to build the production system, so my question is,
> >> will taking the ghost image of test system and putting it on
> >> production system will work ? or do i have to start fresh
> >> installations of ARS and ITSM again on production system ?
> >>
> >> What is ideal approach ? What does BMC recommend ? Please advice.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Raj
> >> rki...@spike.dor.state.co.us<mailto:rki...@spike.dor.state.co.us>
> >>
> >>
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