Someone actually mentioned age as a desirable quality in a job posting? That would be discriminatory.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:45 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH Did you notice the slight jab at the end of the note? I just wanted to get in a shot. It drives me crazy that there is such a disconnect between the hiring manager and the HR team in most companies. One of my favorite job adverts had the perfect candidate as being aged 21 – 25, Bachelors degree and 6+ years experience in a corporate environment. The math just didn’t add up unless you started your degree plan at before you were 13. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH ** Hey Tommy, We just like to have harmless fun sometimes :-) We know (at least most of us) Josh for a while as well as the fact that recruiters / employers sometimes have no clue what they are talking about. Time and again I have come across employing interviewers question me about the implementation of ITIL as if it were a physical product. Its nothing new. Yes not so hard to update a resume to make it like you were on a 'stable' job and not a 'job hopper'. Technically if I were to do that, it would look like I worked for just 2 companies over the 12 years I have worked with Remedy. I had to do just quite the opposite when I started looking for consulting gigs, and name every customer my old company had as a different project so that it would look more like a 'job hoppers' resume. Its just a wrapping paper. At the end of the day you are the real stuff - what you know or do not, and can do or cannot, makes the difference to a smart employer (if they exist). Joe -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Tommy Morris Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:15 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH You guys give ol Josh a break, he is just relaying what his customer wants… If any consultants want to apply for that position I bet you can send an updated resume to accommodate getting to the interview. I think that it’s funny though that some employers do not realize anything about this product or the way that it is developed or administered. But I guess that is what recruiters are actually for right? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH ** Read between the lines dudes :-) We need a Lead Remedy developer who has the experience of a junior/trainee Remedy Administrator, and who is willing to work at the wages of a gas station attendant.. No expenses paid. Must be willing to work late hours - no overtime.. Must have had his first job as a gas service attendant for at least 5 years.. ;-) Joe -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Julie Sellers Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH ** As my last "Permanent" job was for an "*UN*Stable" company that *Disappeared* one month end of last year, I couldn't have said it better myself...spot on Doug! Happy Holidays To You and Yours! ________________________________ From: "Tanner, Doug" <doug.tan...@compass-usa.com> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 7:58:16 AM Subject: Re: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH ** - Stable Resume (No Consultant Resume’s) (Client does not like job hoppers and will reject) My 2 cent Having been a Consultant for 8+ years (Remedy Developer for 13+ years), and then taking a Full Time Remedy position with a local company, the value I bring to the organization is huge. As I have seen a lot, traveled the world, assisted a wealth of customers with numerous ITSM and bespoke applications, have a breath of experience that most “Stable” Remedy developers do not have. If there is a seasoned Developer/Consultant that is ready to settle down and eliminate traveling, your client should really rethink their definition of “Stable”, because a Consultant is not a “Job Hopper” Doug From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kitchen, Joshua Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Job: Permanent - Lead Remedy Developer - Cincinnati, OH ** Dear List, Merry Christmas! Title: Lead Remedy Developer Location: Cincinnati, OH Duration: Permanent (Relocation is offered) Start Date: 2-4 Weeks Must haves: - 5+ Years experience with Remedy - Experience with 7.x - Stable Resume (No Consultant Resume’s) (Client does not like job hoppers and will reject) Description: As a senior developer, the individual will create, design, develop, test and implement Remedy applications and workflow enhancements from business requirements, in accordance with the corporate procedures and standards. This individual may also serve as a business analyst or project manager on select projects and may train Remedy users as required. Additionally, the individual will be responsible for the daily administration, maintenance, monitoring and support of all Remedy applications, servers and reporting in a high-available 24x7 environment. The individual is expected to evaluate Remedy application patches, enhancements and new releases as necessary. 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