I have been in the Remedy world since version 3 too.. I echo the same sentiments as LJ.
I think its just a learning curve that kind of sticks out like a big fat thorn for the first few days.. I felt the same you'll did on my first few days with the tool, but as I kept using it, I think going back to the older Admin tool is something I might quite not prefer because it is obviously a lot slower than Dev Studio. Things aren't as straight forward as they used to be for e.g. in the old tool just double clicking on an item would bring up its properties.. no longer.. its a bit of a navigation, but its not hard to learn where those controls are. It's no longer as point and click as it used to be - so what - we are (most of us) developers, and not everything out there is point and click and yet there is a lot of good stuff out there.. Yes the Dev Studio even with its most current versions has a few quirks. I came across quite a few (one that I clearly remember was one with join forms but that was fixed with patch 3). And many things do not work at all as they are options that are deprecated as they will no longer be supported - for e.g. you can no longer share fields on a tab page, which is now called a panel. If you have workflow that already has shared fields, it works, but the new ones you create do not give you that option to share fields.. Many little annoyances like that.. But all in all it seems to be heading in a good direction - with a lot of bugs along the way.. It may be a while before all those things are really ironed out.. Its a tool that in the beginning you might 'hate to love' but once you get a little comfortable with it, it does look promising.. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:09 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Big fan of Remedy Developer Studio? The way I look at it is this. 'Get Used to it now, rather than later'. I have been developing in Remedy since 3.2 in '98 and have heard countless people complain about the admin tool....but like you, I got used to it and simply know how to get around it better than the Dev studio...but the point is that BMC won't be going back to the admin tool and if you touch a 7.5 server, you should touch it with the same 'Admin' as the server version...this has ALWAYS been the guidance provided....so unless you plan on staying on 7.1 from now through eternity (which is always an option of course)...ya just need to put the same time into learning Dev studio that you put into learning the Admin tool. I agree that it's a bit 'rough' at the moment....with some things that don't work properly....for those, and those things only I go back to my Admin tool. I apply the latest patches to the clients as soon as they come out and they fix more things each time they come out. I know the question was really 'do you like what you know, or the new thing'....and I think everyone likes what they know....but if we want to stay current it's in our best interest to accept change and learn to like the new dev studio :) -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Terje Moglestue Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:33 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Big fan of Remedy Developer Studio? I can not make up my mind if I like it or not! I am sorry if this has been debated up and down in the past on the arslist? I find it quicker, faster and more effective to work within the old Remedy Administrator. There is some nice functionality within Remedy Developer Studio but in general everything takes longer time. Well - my fingers are more used to the Admin tool. Even so - I got better control and things are done quicker the "old fashion way". It might be the displays! At home I got two 24" displays. At work I am only given one 17". Working in the Studio is more fun then - it almost requires some big screens to work with. Still - my preferred tool is Remedy Admin. Am I the only one who finds the transition to the Studio difficult? It is making the ARS platform more up-to-date but I think the Studio got a good way to go before it provides a good development environment. All the best Terje _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"