Yes.  This is a known limitation of how the ITSM installers do their "step 
upgrade" - i.e. even though you're moving from one version to another, what's 
actually happening internally is that it's doing the upgrade of each smaller 
step between the two.  The more steps (i.e. versions) between the two, the 
longer it will take.  There are some other factors involved, but in a nutshell, 
yes - it's known.

There is are technologies being introduced with AR System 7.6.03 that will 
enable the installers to become more streamlined in the future and to generally 
run more efficiently.  So it is BMC's expectation that future versions will 
upgrade much more expediently.


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Enterprise Service Management
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

wow..... 
is BMC support aware of this? 

Guillaume

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arsl...@arslist.org] on 
behalf of Hulmes, Timothy W Mr CTR US USA IMCOM [timothy.hul...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

We did another upgrade of ITSM 7.0.03 Patch 9 to ITSM 7.6 Patch 1.  This
time we did each module separate.
Below are the times
1)Change Management..15 Hours 30 Minutes
2)Asset Management...2 Hours 45 Minutes
3)Service Desk (Incident/Problem)...21 Hours 30 Minutes

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Scott Hammons
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

Tim,

Thanks!  When you do get to upgrade your production environment can you
publish those results as well?  I think it would provide some good
numbers for all the listers here for estimating purposes.

Scott


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy W Mr CTR US USA IMCOM
[timothy.hul...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:28 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

Scott,

The upgrade was done against a backup of our production Database.  It
was done on a VM server so I am guessing when I do this in production on
a physical server I will get better performance.

A Rough estimate of our data size is about 500,000 tickets and 40,000 to
50,000 Assets.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Scott Hammons
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

Tim,

Was your test environment a good representation of the production
environment?  By this I'm mostly referring to the number of objects in
the CMDB and/or ARS DB.  I'm just curious on what size your data set was
for your test.  This is important in estimating the time it would take
to complete the upgrade in a fully functional production environment.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Scott

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy W Mr CTR US USA IMCOM
[timothy.hul...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

We just Recently went from ARS7.1/CMDB2.1/ITSM7.0.03 to
ARS7.5/CMDB7.6/ITSM7.6 in a test environment.  The ARS portion took 40
minutes, the CMDB portion took 4 hours and the ITSM portion.....are you
ready for this 23 hours.  I kid you not.


Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jiri Pospisil
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AR System 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 Upgrade Effort Estimates

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Hi,



I have been tasked to provide some effort estimates for upgrading our
Remedy environment from ARS 7.0.1 to 7.5 and ITSM applications from
7.0.1 to 7.6 (including CMDB upgrade).

I was wondering if anybody who have been through a similar upgrade could
share their experience.

Would be interesting to know not only time spent on the Remedy technical
side, but also what re-training was required/given to users and what
other technical/non-technical resources you had to use during the
upgrade.



Thanks



Jiri Pospisil

Remedy Specialist

LCH.Clearnet <blockedhttp://www.lchclearnet.com/>





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