Axton,

Thank you for the information. 
I ran both the handle and process monitor.  It looks like the run process 
is the issue.  We are getting tons of

We do see the cmd.exe and the java as new processes, and we do see them 
disappear once the java code is done. But the number of Handles increased 
and the number of Process       <Non-existent Process> also increases.
We now have over 6K of Handles for the arserver.exe alone and this within 
1 hour (it starts at 1K). And in the information for handles we see "tons" 
of these
Process <Non-existent Process>(11804)   0x4414  0x001F0FFF      0x9CA42830 

Process <Non-existent Process>(12800)   0x4418  0x001F0FFF      0x9A89FD88 

Process <Non-existent Process>(14896)   0x441C  0x001F0FFF      0x9BD09020 

Process <Non-existent Process>(10212)   0x4420  0x001F0FFF      0x9CB78198 

Process <Non-existent Process>(2576)    0x4424  0x001F0FFF      0x9A4A6830 


So I guess we are on the right track to find what and why.

Thank you again.

Pascale Sterrett (Boyer)
Remedy Technical Lead & Developer
Daimler Trucks North America LLC
Montgomery Park,  9th floor 
Portland, OR 97210 U.S.A

Phone:503-745-6569
Email:pascale.bo...@daimler.com

http://www.daimler-trucksnorthamerica.com 





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** A handle, in terms of a process, are some resource that the process has 
a hold on.  It can be a socket, a file, a pipe to another process or 
pseudo-device, etc.

The handles are growing too high if you are hitting > 8k handles.  The 
question I have is, what are the handles to?  If you find that out, you 
will know what is going wrong.

Here is another program from MS that will list the handles given a 
process:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896655

If you want to know more about what they are and what they mean, read 
this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_descriptor

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:56 PM, <pascale.sterr...@daimler.com> wrote:
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As per our server team, (since I failed to find a understandable 
definition) handles are the resources being used by a process.  The higher 
the handle count the more resource is been taken.
Not sure if this is an accurate vulgarization of the term :o)



Thank you,

Pascale Sterrett (Boyer)
Remedy Technical Lead & Developer
Daimler Trucks North America LLC
Montgomery Park,  9th floor 
Portland, OR 97210 U.S.A

Phone:503-745-6569
Email:pascale.bo...@daimler.com

http://www.daimler-trucksnorthamerica.com 





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** What are the handles against?  That'll tell you what's going on.


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM, <pascale.sterr...@daimler.com> wrote:
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Hi all,

Happy holidays and new years to all.

We have an issue with our upgraded production server.  Since we upgraded 
to 7.5 patch 007 (from 7.0.01 patch 008) our server crash every 30 to 40 
hours.  The reason is it runs out of resources. We noticed that the 
arserver process run over 78,000 Handles after a few days.  We identify 
the cause as being an escalation that does a run process which launch a 
batch file that runs a Java program.  

Absolutely nothing has changed on the code side (Remedy) or on the Java 
side.  When we disable the escalation, the number of Handles average 2,000 
for the arserver process.  But as soon as we enable that particular 
escalation, we see the Handles grow by almost 1,000 every hour or so to 
the point of crashing the server due to lack of resources.  
We have an opened ticket with BMC , but they are telling us its an OS 
issue.  All our servers are on the same OS, same patches etc.  We move the 
code (both Java and Remedy) on another server that runs the same OS, same 
OS patching but ARS 7.0.01 patch 008 and the Handles are stable at 2,400 
for the arserver.  
We are adding monitoring tools to the server to try to get more 
information but all points back to the arserver.
The Java code was compiled on 1.5.0_12. We recompiled it with 1.6.0_22 but 
still same problem.  We changed the Java program to make sure that the 
connections were closing properly.

Any one else have this kind of issue? any ideas?

As a Band-Aid, we are currently rebooting the server every night. 

OS: Win2003 server
ARS 7.5 patch 007
No OOB all homegrown
MSSQL 2005 remote on Win 2003

Thank you,

Pascale Sterrett (Boyer)
Remedy Technical Lead & Developer
Daimler Trucks North America LLC
Montgomery Park,  9th floor 
Portland, OR 97210 U.S.A

Phone:503-745-6569
Email:pascale.bo...@daimler.com

http://www.daimler-trucksnorthamerica.com


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