Hi,

I suspect that if the field id is not 102, it will not encrypt the content
before it is sent over the network. The SQL log will still show it
encrypted though, as it is encrypted by the server before it is stored.

It would be complicated to track the 102 to the actual regular form, as a
join may be implemented in multiple tiers.

        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

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> Hi Misi,
>
> I have not checked the SQL logs but I was assuming (hoping) that since the
> renumbered password field (on the join form) still maps to the real
> password field in the real User form (with it's original FID), then it
> would still be treated as such and encrypted as appropriate. I did in fact
> set the Display-Type to "Edit Masked" as you suggest and that part works
> just fine. If I get a few minutes today, I'll check the SQL logs to see
> what is getting sent.
>
> Thanks.
> Larry
>
> On Jan 18, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Misi Mladoniczky wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> All else to the side, in this case, couldn't you just set the
>> Display-Type
>> to "Edit Masked"?
>>
>> I an guessing that it changes the way modified data is sent to the
>> server,
>> as the password field is normally sent encrypted.
>>
>> In the old days, I sometimes renamed the User-form to a Swedish
>> equivalent, which worked just fine, and it probably still does.
>>
>> If you had multiple User-forms the system could suddenly switch forms,
>> for
>> example when you imported a record into UserCopy, the user cache could
>> get
>> reset with only the newly imported user in it... I am sure it worked
>> like
>> this in version 2.0 and 2.1, and possibly a bit after that as well ;-)
>>
>> Why is the 9070 message missing from the Error Message Guide?
>>
>>        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>>
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>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation. It is very helpful to know what is going on
>>> in
>>> the background. Since 104 is the only one that I need that has special
>>> functionality, renumbering one or more of the others works fine as a
>>> workaround.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Mueller, Doug wrote:
>>>
>>>> Larry,
>>>>
>>>> The User form (and several other system forms) is identified by the
>>>> presence
>>>> of a specific set of fields.  If we find all the fields of a set on a
>>>> form, the
>>>> form is that special form with special meaning.
>>>>
>>>> If we find multiple forms with those fields, we don't know which is
>>>> which and
>>>> for key forms, we have logic that detects the confusion and you get
>>>> the
>>>> error
>>>> 9070 indicating you cannot do what you are attempting because the form
>>>> would
>>>> cause confusion in the system.
>>>>
>>>> For the User form, The key fields include 101 and 102 and probably 104
>>>> and maybe
>>>> 106 (I don't remember the exact list).  If ALL of these fields are
>>>> present on
>>>> the form, it means the form is THE user form for the system.
>>>>
>>>> You will get the error when adding the last of whatever the set of
>>>> special
>>>> fields are so it could come reported against any one of the special
>>>> fields --
>>>> whichever is added last.
>>>>
>>>> This is why renumbering the field doesn't have the problem.
>>>> This is why adding some but not all of the fields doesn't have the
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Only if you add ALL of the fields that the system is using to identify
>>>> the
>>>> form do you have the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I don't remember the specific list of fields that identify the
>>>> User form,
>>>> but it is some combination of 101, 102, 104, and 106.  (at least I
>>>> think
>>>> so)
>>>>
>>>> Doug Mueller
>
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