Doug always have :)

--
J

2011/11/11 pritch <pri...@ptd.net>:
> And of course you're making the assumption we have control over the items in 
> your workaround.  Quite often we don't.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Mueller" <doug_muel...@bmc.com>
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:53:35 PM
> Subject: Re: BMC's Future on the horizon.. IMHO
>
> **
>
>
> Everyone,
>
>
>
> What Chris describes here is a new discovery that is unique to IE9 where 
> something has changed in
>
> the IE implementation.  As part of the model that BMC uses for the AR System, 
> we support the
>
> specified versions of products "or later".  In this case, IE9 was not 
> available when the current version
>
> was released (7.6.04 was released in January 2011 and IE9 in March 2011).
>
>
>
> The product is fully functional with IE9.  However, we have discovered an 
> interaction issue that causes
>
> a performance problem with IE9.  We are working with both Microsoft and Adobe 
> on this issue to see
>
> if can be resolved.  In addition, some redesign of the approach has mostly 
> eliminated the problem from
>
> the next major release (but that strategy cannot be backported to the current 
> release).
>
>
>
> So, enough of the overall philosophy, let's look at this situation.
>
>
>
> There are a number of UI features that we added in recent releases.  Some of 
> them were not supported
>
> on specific browsers so we had to find alternatives for supporting the 
> capability.  Specifically, there are
>
> three features: rounded corners, gradient colors, and vertical text.  These 
> three capabilities could not
>
> be supported in IE natively because the capability was not present.  To allow 
> these capabilities, we
>
> incorporated the use of Flash for IE.  All of the other browsers – Safari, 
> Firefox, and even the other
>
> used but unsupported browsers like Chrome – have the necessary support.  So, 
> the workaround was
>
> used only for IE environments.
>
>
>
> Everything works fine for IE6, IE7, and IE8 but with IE9, something has 
> changed so that there is now a
>
> performance cost for the workaround.   This is what we are working to find 
> out what the issue is with
>
> the other vendors.
>
>
>
> Now, there are several options:
>
>
>
> 1)       The performance issues is not really affecting you so do nothing
>
> 2)       Use a browser other than IE
>
> 3)       Use a version of IE before IE9  (for example, use IE8)
>
> 4)       Use FlashPlayer 10.2 or earlier (the problem has been isolated to 
> the combination of IE9 using
> FlashPlayer 10.3, or later unless a fix is added later)
>
> 5)       Go to the System config settings and set the option that turns off 
> the use of Flash for these
> three capabilities – you will not get rounded corners, vertical text, or 
> gradient colors but you will
> not loose any other functionality or capability within the system.  It is a 
> cosmetic affect
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So, in summary….
>
>
>
> This may affect you ONLY IF you
>
>
>
> n   Run IE9 as your browser
>
> n   Use FlashPlayer 10.3 or later
>
> n   Leave the system config setting to use Flash for these features turned on 
> (the default)
>
>
>
> Otherwise, this issue does not have any affect on your system.  And, it will 
> affect only users that have
>
> this combination as their client – other users on the same system without 
> this combination will not
>
> be affected.
>
>
>
> There are several options (which may or may not be possible in your 
> environment) to eliminate the
>
> problem immediately.
>
>
>
> BMC is continuing to work with the vendors on this problem to see we can find 
> out why the problem
>
> suddenly showed up with this combination of technology and to see if we can 
> eliminate the issue from
>
> future releases with alternate designs or approaches.
>
>
>
>
>
> I hope this explanation has been helpful both for this specific issue and to 
> show a case in action of the
>
> "or later" support strategy.
>
>
>
> Doug Mueller
>
>
>
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of strauss
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:39 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: BMC's Future on the horizon.. IMHO
>
>
>
> **
>
> We can hope; the dialog performance problems that we have been experiencing 
> on production with ITSM 7.6.04.01 Incidents in IE9 have now been tracked down 
> specifically to flash, and confirmed in my testing.
>
>
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:03 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: BMC's Future on the horizon.. IMHO
>
>
>
> ** 
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/flash-is-dead-long-live-html5/1633?tag=nl.e539
>
> BMC's Future..
>
>
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