Hi,

A couple of small notes...

The write license is not grabbed when you login. It is grabbed when you do
a search, update a table-field, or something else that access the server
concerning data. You can open a form without grabbing your licenses, as
long as there is no workflow that connects to the server for data.

Application licenses work in a similar way to AR licenses. The difference
is that users are not assigned floating read licenses from the start, this
only happens when they access data. Forms are tagged to the application
they belong to, and the licenses tokens are grabbed when you access data
in application-tagged forms.

You can get some more details in a RUG-presentation I did some time ago:
http://rrr.se/doc/RRR_LicenseManagement.pdf

        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

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> It has taken us years to completely understand the floating license
> timeout.
>
> It may be best to not think in the terms of a single user but think of a
> floating write license pool.  My description below is for the server
> floating write licenses.
>
> User B logs into the server.  Is the number of users with floating write
> licenses less than the number of available floating write licenses?
>     If the answer is yes then they are allocated a floating write license.
>     If the answer is no then they are given a Read license.  They can
> execute searches and under certain conditions they can update records
> (Submitter Mode locked and they are the Submitter for one).
>
> With a Read license User B can run reports, looks at records, anything
> that doesn't trigger a modification of a record.  If they log off they
> don't need to be assigned a floating write license.
>
> Now lets say 5 minutes pass and User B modifies a record.  The server
> checks to see if there is a floating write license available from the
> pool.  If there is then User B is given a floating write license.
>
> Now the question becomes what makes the floating write license available.
> One way is User A is assigned a floating write license and User A logs off
> the server.  Their license is now available in the pool.
> Another way is User A is assigned a floating write license and they went
> to a meeting.  They were not doing anything within the client for 65
> minutes.  If User B made their modification after User A has been inactive
> for 60 minutes, the system will give User B the floating write license and
> User A will be given a Read license.
> I'm not familiar with the application licenses but I would assume the
> logic is similar.
>
> Dave
> ________________________________
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mauricio M.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 3:42 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Floating License Timeout - myths and facts
>
> ** Dave,
>
> With that in mind, actually there is no "license timeout" functionality as
> we all understand, is that right? if user is inactive for the timeout
> interval, I would expect him to be flushed and not only get reverted to
> read-floating.
>
>>From what you say, if you set a 1 hour timeout, if the user is inactive
>> but returns to his session at the last moment, say 59m:59s and he has
>> activity he could potentionally grab the token again and other users
>> waiting "in line" will never get the token and have write access for long
>> time....
>
> This is odd, is this supposed to work this way? if users are not really
> flushed after timeout, how is this controlled?
>
> What you say about users could also get reverted to floating-write after
> timeout, is also odd, since there would not be a real timeout funcionality
> at all.
>
> -Mauricio
>
>
> 2012/1/4 Shellman, David
> <dave.shell...@te.com<mailto:dave.shell...@te.com>>:
>> The user is not kicked out of the system.
>>
>> The will continue to show in the list of Users.  Whether they are given
>> a read license or continue to have a floating license depends on if the
>> number of users associated with floating licenses is less than the
>> number of floating licenses.
>>
>> It's also dependent on if they have executed a search or a function that
>> acts like a search.  This resets the license time out clock.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of
>> Mauricio M.
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:01 PM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
>> Subject: Floating License Timeout - myths and facts
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Just bringing back the old question about how license timeout is
>> supposed to work
>>
>> Which is the expected behaviour if user logged in and he had been
>> granted with floating write license and now he is timed out due to
>> session inactivity
>>
>> I mean, if the timeout interval expires,
>>
>> 1) User should dissapear and not get listed at all in "Manage User
>> Licenses" -> Server - Current Licenses??
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) User should remain listed in "Manage User Licenses" but now being
>> reverted to Read (Floating)? Is normal behaviour that user is not
>> actually kicked-out of the system although he got license timeout??
>>
>> Hope someone can clarify this, thank you!!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Happy 2012
>>
>> -Maw
>>
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