Hi Axton, At the time Sun was on sale, my understanding was the first potential buyer was IBM, then Oracle jumped in. I truly believe that IBM getting Sun would have been much worse, since they already have hardware (server and storage) a UNIX OS, database, etc. I think the only thing from Sun that would have survived with IBM would have been Java. Similar situation I think if HP had acquired Sun... They probably would have kept more software than IBM for a while longer until they figured what to do with it...
Oracle has certainly chopped several pieces, but I think the alternative would have been much worse. My $0.02 Guillaume ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Axton [axton.gr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart ** Publicly traded companies are much easier to acquire. It takes less convincing and more coercing. With a private company, there is usually a person or small group of people that have to be convinced to sell, and it's not always about the money; i.e., you can't buy what is not for sale. Oracle buying Sun is a good thing? I'm sad to see that so many great things have died or are dying on the vine. I'm sad to see the people that made or use these technologies alienated from them. Most of the talent that made those things what they are seem to have left the building. http://blogs.computerworld.com/16741/oracle_dumps_opensolaris http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/hardware-systems-support-policies-069182.pdf http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/suns-stars-where-are-they-now-and-why-did-they-leave-765 http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/enderle/oracle-s-40-percent-hardware-slide-is-sun-doa/?cs=46335 http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/20/oracle-claims-android-is-stealing-javas-traditionally-strong-phone-tv-and-tablet-market-share-really-guys/ http://www.java.net/forum/topic/javadesktop/java-desktop-technologies/java-3d/unsigned-entry-j3dcorejar My two cents. Axton Grams On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com<mailto:guilla...@dcshq.com>> wrote: ** I don't think Oracle is interested at all in acquiring BMC, I don't think t would be a good fit for either one. However, it was a very good thing that Oracle got Sun, including all the hardware (SPARC, storage, etc) and all the software (Java, Solaris, etc). Looks like the only part that is not clear in that acquisition is mySQL, we'll see. Will BMC buy Kinetic? hmmmm IBM was in the ITSM game a long time ago with Tivoli.... that's been dead for a long time, I don't think it will resuscitate ever. ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] on behalf of Gordon Frank [gjj...@comcast.net<mailto:gjj...@comcast.net>] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:25 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart ** When does BMC buy out Kinetic? Any bets? This seems to be the trend. Might be a good thing. Here's one: When does Oracle buy out BMC? Peoplesoft, Sun, Java, Remedy, Kinetic, Numara, Business Objects - TBD, when does SAP say enough?. Of course then Microsoft will include it all in their new Operating System. Where's a good Google attack when you need one. Google as bundled everything else, why not Service Management too? Maybe it's time for IBM to get back in the game. They are still the silent one that most businesses are still using. To quote the Wicked Witch of the West, "Whata World, Whata World!" ________________________________ From: "Rick Sharp" <rickshar...@yahoo.com<mailto:rickshar...@yahoo.com>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:20:29 PM Subject: Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart OMG .... Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: John Sundberg <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> Sender: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:55:12 To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>> Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Kinetic Request at WalMart According to this google search - I can get Kinetic Request at WalMart. I might just swing by this weekend and ask the greeter where I can pick up a copy. :) -John _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org<http://www.arslist.org> attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com<http://www.wwrug12.com> ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org<http://www.arslist.org> attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com<http://www.wwrug12.com> ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com<http://www.wwrug.com> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com<http://www.wwrug.com> ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
