Worst practice - I have not heard that before - good one.


-John

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 3:17 AM, "Ali A. Musa" <aam...@stc.com.sa> wrote:

> **
> You can use ESCLATION to enable this filter
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Theo Fondse
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:15 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
>  
> **
> John,
>  
> I agree!
> Hopefully BMC will do something about this?
> Using an object name to control how the system operates is hardly "best 
> practice".  Adding a couple of flag fields on filters & active links to 
> achieve this is certainly not going to be difficult for BMC.  
> I have had to defend Remedy's "honour" in the past from developers, dba's and 
> sysadmins outside of the Remedy world for various things, but this ''worst 
> practice" is one thing that is simply not defendable....
>  
> Best Regards,
> Theo
>  
> Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer ....
>  
> “Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value.” – Albert 
> Einstein
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of John Sundberg
> Sent: 06 April 2012 19:53
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
>  
> ** I think the convention should be "REMOVED"…
>  
> Add a flag on Filter -- Run Immediately…
>  
> Approx 10 years ago -- I was brought into a big telco project to "fix it"….
>  
> After a new developer went through and renamed filters/actlinks to meet a 
> nicer naming convention… (to work with BMCs new filtering based on COLON)
>  
> Try -- troubleshooting that….
>  
> Old name:
>  
> mtc_FindIPAddress`!
>  
> New name:
>  
> MTC:IP:Find_Address
>  
>  
> (in a haystack of 2000 filters -- that all got renamed)
>  
> (OK - I am exaggerating the situation a bit -- but -- either way -- my 
> opinion it is TOO WEIRD to add something to a name - and now it works 
> different)
>  
>  
> -John
>  
>  
> 
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote:
> We are allowed that on Friday :-)
> 
> This is an interesting thread though.. It would be nice to have a full list 
> of all these small conventions that could affect functionality..
> 
> Imagine fat fingering the keyboard (although that’s as likely to happen 
> anytime too soon as as having a snow storm in the middle east) and naming a 
> piece of workflow with these characters and have functionality affected, and 
> not have a clue why..
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: LJ LongWing
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:30 PM Newsgroups: 
> public.remedy.arsystem.general
> 
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
> 
> Ah...yes, I'll agree that * in a workflow doesn't indicate anything then 
> :)....mis-read the darn post :)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:13 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
> 
> Dee was asking about the * in the beginning of workflow names.. That in
> front of workflow is more the work of a developer customizing an OTB app..
> 
> While I was aware that the * at the end of field names was just a visual
> thing for bold fields, I wasn't aware it was because of the section 508
> compliance standards.. That’s a good to know and thanks for that info.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: LJ LongWing
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:06 PM Newsgroups:
> public.remedy.arsystem.general
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
> 
> The * at the beginning of the field name is a Section 508 compliance
> thing...it designates to visually impaired people that the field is required
> 
> http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/cio/s508/03web.htm
> 
> search for the word 'asterisk'
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Dee
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:27 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `!
> 
> Thanks Joe,
> 
> Like John in this post and Sam in "Suggestions" post last week,  are these
> commands/tricks written any where and are there more?
> 
> 
> Looking at System Forms/Workflow, do these mean anything or just name
> conventions?
> 
> 1. (*)At the begin of Name of workflow, ex. (*TS-SI 100 Upper Server)
> 2. (~!) At the end of name of workflow, ex. (AP:Sig-RecentHistoryDate~!)
> 3. (`1)At the end of name of workflow, ex.  (XR:GetSchemaWorkflow1`1)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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