There was a hard ceiling on how much the midtier could handle with the
32-bit JVM (because memory was scarce), but that, in theory, is no longer
the case with the 64-bit JVMs.  Using a 64-bit JVM with the midtier will
require that you properly tune your JVM though, if you expect to get
comparable performance from it that you do with a 32-bit JVM.

Axton Grams

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Brian Goralczyk <bgoralc...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I am sorry, I meant that the AR server should be able to handle it.  I
> would go with the 150 limit per mid tier.  I haven't tested it to see
> how many it can actually run, but it can be pretty frustrating if you
> don't have enough of them to handle the load.  I believe that you only
> need one AR server based on concurrent users SOLELY.
>
> Fail-over and disaster recovery is a different ball of wax.  Server
> groups are a great way to protect yourself.
>
> Based on what you are saying I would say a minimal setup would be 2
> good webservers to handle the mid tier, one app server and one db
> server.  But keep in mind that is minimal.  Depending on how much
> money you have to spend I would double everything to start.
>
> Patrick has a pretty good recommendation.
>
>
> Brian Goralczyk
> Phone 574-643-1144
> Email bgoralc...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Hocks, Mike (DOT)
> <mike.ho...@state.mn.us> wrote:
> > Brian, thanks a lot for the info...so it sounds like the rule of
> estimating 150 concurrent connections per mid-tier is way off base...we are
> running a quad core xeon proc with 24GB of RAM w/ Windows 2008 64BIT ...
> sounds like we are in good shape our environment?  We do have Mid-Tier and
> the AR System all on the same box (pre-config stack install)
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > -Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:51 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
> >
> > I would say that 500 concurrent users isn't to much for some servers to
> handle.  It all depends on your hardware and your code.  If you are using
> out of the box, what are those 500 users going to be doing?  If it is
> custom code, how cleanly is it written.  Performance testing and
> improvement is a job all on it's own.  But I have had systems that have
> dealt with that level of load without a problem.  The biggest issue is the
> single point of failure mentioned.
> >
> >
> > Brian Goralczyk
> > Phone 574-643-1144
> > Email bgoralc...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Hocks, Mike (DOT) <
> mike.ho...@state.mn.us> wrote:
> >> Interesting, we need to build out our environment for 500 concurrent
> connections, do you think we should plan for more AR Servers to accommodate
> 500 concurrent connection?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> >> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:22 PM
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
> >>
> >> You can, but then you still have a potential single point of failure
> (or bottleneck).
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Andrew C Goodall" <ago...@jcp.com>
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:11:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
> >>
> >> You can have multiple point to one.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Andrew C. Goodall
> >> Software Engineer
> >> Development Services
> >> ago...@jcpenney.com
> >> jcpenney
> >> 6501 Legacy Drive
> >> Plano, TX 75024
> >> jcp.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> >> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mike Hocks
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:06 PM
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Subject: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
> >>
> >> A question regarding a Load balancer and multiple Mid Tiers .... Can I
> have multiple mid tiers point to 1 AR Server or do I need to have an AR
> Server for each Mid Tier?
> >>
> >> We are running the 7.6.04 from the Pre Config Stack Installer  on a
> >> Windows 2008 Server with a SQL backend
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> -Mike
> >>
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