Thanks for replying, Doug!

Yes, this is essentially what we have done, but we are currently
researching whether UTC is a valid value for the field, as it does not
appear in the dropdown list.  I just tested and it doesn't object to the
value of UTC, so I will look into whether it behaves as expected.

Thanks again!

-Paul


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Mueller, Doug <doug_muel...@bmc.com> wrote:

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> Every user has a User Preference record.****
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> One of the settings on that User Preference record is the timezone.****
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> By default, permissions are set up so that users can change their user
> preference.****
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> Now, the user preference form is a FORM.  That means it has permissions.**
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> You can simply change the permissions (create an overlay of the field).
> You can remove all write permission****
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> to that field from everyone.  You could remove read permission too, but
> you might as well leave that so****
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> users are aware.  Then, set a default value of UTC for the time zone.****
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> If there are existing User Preference records, an Administrator can do a
> modify all for all cases where it is not****
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> UTC to set it to UTC for existing users.****
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> For every new user, create a user preference record as part of creating
> the user.****
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> Now, every user has UTC set as their timezone and they cannot change it.**
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> By the way, this same technique can be used for any user preference field.
>  You can take over the preference****
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> and prevent the user from specifying it by simply modifying permissions on
> the fields on the user****
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> preference form.****
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> I hope this helps,****
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> Doug Mueller****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Paul Blasquez
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:09 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: UTC Time****
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> Hi everyone, thanks for replying.****
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> My issue isn't with the server side of things, I'm fully comfortable
> setting up UTC there.  I think Joe saw the point best - we want to control
> the user timezone and set it to be UTC as well.****
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> As to why, the reason is that we have multiple locations in multiple
> timezones and we do not want to put the math on the user to figure what the
> "real" time is for that location. We display all times in "Site Local Time"
> and do the timezone offset in the background based on the timezone of the
> location the user is focused on.  "Site Local Time" is actually just server
> time, and we have all user preferences locked to PST and the server is PST
> as well.  There are issues that come up every year having to do with DST,
> primarily the fact that 2am does not exist for one day each spring.  In
> this case, our European users cannot select a perfectly legitimate hour for
> their site because it happens to not exist for the application's timezone.
> There are other issues that we have dealt with as well, like time jumping
> forward and backward across date ranges that cross a PST DST boundary.****
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> So our options here are to figure out the correct way to lock users into
> UTC, or as a backup plan we may decide to use Phoenix time for everything
> as it does not have DST.  We would prefer to use the global standard.****
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> I hope that makes things more clear.  To re-iterate, the actual question
> here is, is it possible for the user preference to be set to UTC in any way
> shape or form?****
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> Thanks,****
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> -Paul****
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:25 AM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> ** have lots of utc servers.. never had issues.. (except to remember that
> escalations run on SERVER time not local time)...
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> Patrick Zandi _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20
> years_ ****
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