I think the issue that people are bringing up when saying the rates are low is that basically you are limiting yourself to people in the area. Anyone outside the area that might have to travel can't afford to for that rate unless someone else is picking up the tab.
Even if you consider moving for the job, the rate is to low to cover moving expenses in most peoples eyes. But like everyone else, this is my view. Brian Goralczyk Brian Goralczyk Phone 574-643-1144 Email bgoralc...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Longwing, Lj <llongw...@usgs.gov> wrote: > ** > I think the 'rate' discussion is more complicated than all of that. I > have been a Remedy developer in my area for 15+ years....I know my value, > and am certainly nowhere NEAR a 'Junior' developer. I know the cost of > living ranges in Colorado Springs and I can honestly say that I have worked > for the rate discussed in this posting. > > If I lived say...in DC, where many of the 'government' jobs come out > of...no, this rate would be an insult and wouldn't provide a sufficient > income to live comfortably.....but in a country where the poverty line sits > somewhere around $20K/year, I can't say a job paying 5 times that is a > 'bad' job by any means. > > It's true that Colorado Springs is not Virginia/DC/New York/Washington, as > far as markets are concerned....but the rates that are typically discussed > on the list are, as you said 'contract' rates...and the rate being > discussed in this posting is an employee rate. > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ars Lister <kp_ars...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> ** >> The truth is, for a regular salaried employee, the salary is OK and the >> rates translate into salary. Contractors typically do not get holidays, >> sick days, vacation days, or personal days. If it's a W-2 contract rate, >> they MAY get access to the medical aspect of the benefit plans but are >> typically not invited into the 401K aspect. Ergo, translating salaries >> into rates are improper and non-competitive. >> >> As for stability, I and several of my associates have had 1-2 year >> engagements at more than double those rates at numerous companies and >> governmental agencies. Stability does not define the value of the skillset >> on the market. If you're able to leverage people who do not know their >> value on the market-- kudos. If your cost of living is lower than other >> markets, then yes, a reduction of $10-20 on the rate may still be >> competitive. But over half? Then like someone said earlier, you must be >> looking for a junior person. >> >> PS: Remedy Administrator used to mean Remedy Developer but in this day >> and age, it usually means someone who is configuring the applications with >> data. The advertised rates are appropriate for Remedy Admins with that >> detail as that is a science in itself, but no where close to what it takes >> to be a Developer regardless of level. However, the description of the >> position indicates that the old-school definition is being used-- you all >> want a seasoned Developer. In that case, those rates are wayyyyy off. It >> is what it is. >> >> *From:* "Lockwood, Teresa L" <tlockw...@tyco.com> >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:18 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> ** >> Thank you Nathan! I’m sure most of us are reading these replies >> thinking how crazy it is for folks to be responding about how little money >> this is. I’ve been doing Remedy administration since Remedy owned the >> company and still don’t make more than this job is offering. Either I’m >> grossly underpaid or folks have forgotten what’s it’s like to work for a >> company with benefits. I’ve never contracted as I’ve always worked for a >> large company but the salary for this company seems in line with what I’ve >> seen. Sorry, that’s my 2 cents ;) >> >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Aker >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:06 PM >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> ** >> I’m continually amazed at the amount of people who chime in to ARSList to >> roast someone who posts a job for a stationary basic Remedy position >> offering 6 figures as though they have somehow insulted your worth and hurt >> your market value. This is a stationary position for an ADMIN role, with >> opportunity for conversion. This is not a 6mth – year long CMDB architect >> position traveling to Iran people. I’m sure a 3-5 year experienced person >> who wants a stable job with no travel would be very interested… I know, >> I’ve helped interview and hire a number of people in this range >> successfully over the last 5 years. >> >> Agreed this would be light for a traveling senior contracting position >> for short term, but it’s been clearly stated it’s not. >> >> *Nathan Aker* >> ITSM Solution Architect >> >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *David Charters >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:17 AM >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> ** >> maybe they're just looking for newbies that just know how to do real >> basic stuff >> >> >> Sincerly, >> >> David Charters >> Charters Technologies >> 317-331-8985 >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Carl Wilson <carlbwil...@gmail.com> >> Date: 09/11/2013 8:32 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> >> ** >> Don't normally chime in on these but .... >> Wow, $340 - 360 USD a day is very low (UK rates start at around £350+ = >> $550+ USD) ... Security clearance can add a fair amount of value to that. >> >> BTW: How are you Matt, been a long time J (you going to WWRUG?, I seen >> Mr David Savino is ...) >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> *Carl Wilson* >> >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Matt >> Moore >> *Sent:* 11 September 2013 23:57 >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> *Subject:* Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> ** As stated in the job description, this is an admin position, and the >> secret clearance can be processed. 48/hr is above market rate for Colorado >> Springs, CO. Typically remedy administrators in Colorado Springs will make >> $40-45/hr. All of our certified/cleared folks are working with >> current clients of ours. The most we are currently paying those contractors >> is 45/hr. Hopefully this answers your questions! >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Differ, Alfred W CTR PHD NSWC, 210 < >> alfred.differ....@navy.mil> wrote: >> With an active clearance? >> >> I hope not. >> >> -al >> >> >> Alfred Differ - Sr. Database Engineer >> NDTI / NSWC PHD >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Charters >> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:45 PM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET >> CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - >> Contract Rate $38-48/hr >> >> $48.00/hr? Does anyone worth their Remedy salt work for that kind of >> rate? Maybe 2 x 48? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> David Charters >> Charters Technologies >> 317-331-8985 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Moore >> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:06 PM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: REMEDY ADMIN NEEDED in Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE - >> 6 Month Contract to Hire - $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate >> $38-48/hr >> >> ****Colorado Springs, CO - SECRET CLEARANCE - 6 Month Contract to Hire - >> $80-100K (Based on experience) - Contract Rate $38-48/hr***** >> >> Top Three Skills: >> 1.BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.5 or higher >> 2.Producing technical requirements and design documentation 3.Provide >> systems administration on servers that house Remedy Applications >> >> Job Description: >> >> •Produce technical requirements and design documentation that describes >> system requirements, performance criteria, data flows, and end-user >> interfaces. >> •Develop, change, test and deploy at least 5 NEC Information Technology >> Infrastrusture Library (ITIL) processes into Remedy processes averaged per >> month. >> •Use the Remedy Administrator tool to tune and modify Remedy escalations, >> notifications, filters, active links and forms. >> •Administer application data daily. >> •Patch the Remedy Applications monthly or as needed. >> •Work with internal and external agencies to ensure the Remedy suite of >> applications are being fully supported. >> •Execute database queries, create database tables, and tune database >> performance daily. >> •Provide system administration on servers that house the Remedy >> Applications. >> >> >> Education/Experience: >> • AA degree in IT, or related field, or a combination of education and >> work experience equivalency. >> • Must have excellent interpersonal skills including tact and diplomacy. >> • Must have excellent verbal and written communications skills. >> Other: >> • Must have or be able to obtain Secret security clearance • Must have >> CompTIA Security + certification • BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy >> AR System 7.5 or higher >> >> >> ALL OCCUPATIONS LISTED ABOVE RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING BENEFITS: >> >> HEALTH & WELFARE: $3.81 per hour or $152.40 per week or $660.40 per month >> (TAX FREE) >> >> VACATION: 2 weeks paid vacation after 1 year of service with a contractor >> or successor; 3 weeks after 5 years, 4 weeks after 15 years, and 5 weeks >> after 25 years. >> Length of service includes the whole span of continuous service with the >> present contractor or successor, wherever employed, and with the >> predecessor contractors in the performance of similar work at the same >> Federal facility. 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