My suggestion

Take a backup of the Oracle 10g data and copy/restore it to the Oracle 12c  
(Your DBA could also do this with oracle DataPump).   
Install 8.1 on the new server against the copy/restored data.   When installing 
it should ask you if you want to upgrade or start new in the database.  Choose 
upgrade.   
   (You do NOT need to have an existing set of ARS binaries on the new server 
to choose upgrade as this only refers to the database data)

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Carina Burns
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Help with upgrade path

Greetings!!!

I am turning to you all for suggestions for an upgrade path for our ARS system. 
 I've contacted BMC for advice, however our support contract level is Basic... 
which is also the adjective I would use to describe my current level of 
customer satisfaction.

Has anyone gone from ARS 7.1 to 8.1?  How did you do it?  
If you don't want to wade thru my specifics, kindly preface your reply with 
TLDR before you explain your upgrade method.

The specifics:  
Our production set up is 
ARS 7.1 patch 11 / Midtier7.0.01 patch 5/ Apache Tomcat 5.027 / Crystal Reports 
XI running on WinSvr 2003 SP2
against an
Oracle 10g last patch database on RedHat Enterprise 4.0

I had thought to step thru and upgrade to 7.6 and then to 8.1 but was advised 
after opening a support ticket that since we have custom forms only and are not 
using ITSM or any other BMC app, we could go straight to 8.1 from 7.1.  

The compatibility matrix lists the minimums but states that any newer versions 
are supported for OS and database.  Since hardware only gets upgraded when bond 
money exists about every 5-7 years at our school district, I asked for the 
latest/greatest.  I cleared my choices/plan with support but since it was going 
to take a while to get the servers, I closed the ticket saying I would open 
another once I had my gear.

My new servers are virtual; a WinSvr2012 R2 and a Oracle Linux 6 box.  I put 
Oracle 12c on as the database.

I had thought to install ARS 7.1 as a "new install", delete the data, copy the 
production 10g AR schema over to the 12c user, then run 8.1 as an upgrade. 
That's essentially how I did it the last time and support confirmed that a 
number of people run their upgrades that way.  But Oh-Oh! 7.1 is 32bit and 
doesn't want to install on my Win 64bit OS...Maybe both support and I missed 
that little hitch or perhaps I misunderstood.  Anyhow, I opened a new ticket 
and asked if I could do the same thing but with 8.1 instead.  In other words, 
install ARS 8.1 as a new install, delete the data, copy over the 10g AR schema 
to the 12c user, then run 8.1 again as an upgrade.

Here are the answers I got back on my ticket (paraphrased):
A) 7.1 isn't supported, 
B) I was free to experiment using the new install/delete data/move schema/run 
upgrade method but it may not work
C) I can try to install 8.1 as new and use the Migrator to move over all my 
custom forms
D) Contract professional services and pay BMC to help with my upgrade

Option D isn't going to happen.  So I am left with options B and C.  The 
analyst on the first support ticket didn't think Migrator would be necessary 
since we aren't using ITSM.  Thoughts on that (While I go read the migrator 
documentation)?  Comments on option B?

Thanks in advance!
Carina




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