i am not sure i see your point. are you saying that you dont see a conflict of interest in the facts? lincoln/kennedy, kennedy/lincoln was coincidence, maybe the last paragraph was coincidence, and that i prefaced with more than enough explanation that i just found it curious and was not presenting them as fact..as for the rest, it is empirical fact..once again, if you are claiming otherwise, check them out for yourself..as for your asbury fact fun, i am certainly not disputing that,but what i posted was on topic..as for fuminig, i was merely contributing, i did not start this thread..if your point is that this board is strictly for on-topic posting, i must have missed the memo because i seem to remember you checking in on quite a few off topic posts in the last few days..so, unless i have missed something, your hubris is not only unwelcomed but also unwarranted
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln, and Lincoln had a > secretary named Kennedy. > > If you take the letters in Asbury Park, substitute a d for the s, > you get YUR BAD KRAP. is that a signal for everybody to stay away? > > guys, it's okay to take the tinfoil hats off now. > > while you were fuming over Bush being selected, not elected...you > are missing the big picture, happening right here in Asbury Park. > > Since President Gore's election in 2000: > > Your city manager pleaded guilty of accepting bribes for > Redevelopments. > > Your city manager signed a redevelopment agreement, then promptly > went to Newark & pleaded guilty for accepting bribes for > redevelopment. > > The redevelopers who signed the redevelopment agreement, with the > city manager, who signed the redevelopment agreement, then promptly > went to Newark & pleaded guilty for accepting bribes for > redevelopment, have not built ONE SINGLE STRUCTURE since signing the > redevelopment agreement, with the city manager, who signed the > redevelopment agreement, then promptly went to Newark & pleaded > guilty for accepting bribes for redevelopment. > > The Redeveloper, who signed the redevelopment agreement, with the > city manager, who signed the redevelopment agreement, then promptly > went to Newark & pleaded guilty for accepting bribes for > redevelopment, have DESTROYED the ONE PIECE of architecture, which > unites Bruce Springsteen to the City, which signed an agreement, > with The Redeveloper, who signed the redevelopment agreement, with > the city manager, who signed the redevelopment agreement, then > promptly went to Newark & pleaded guilty for accepting bribes for > redevelopment. > > We can go on...you all remember the Nursery Rhyme... > > This is the farmer sowing the corn, > That kept the cock that crowed in the morn, > That waked the priest all shaven and shorn, > That married the man all tattered and torn, > That kissed the maiden all forlorn, > That milked the cow with the crumpled horn > That tossed the dog, that worried the cat, > That chased the rat , that ate the malt, > That lay in the house that Jack built. > > Or we can discuss what's going on in Asbury Park... > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Tony Tedesco" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have been following the whole CIA/Diebold/Bush/E&S/GOP > connection > > for a while. the fact that the SAIC head (Owens) was a military > aide > > under Carlucci and Cheney. We all know where Chaney is, Carlucci > is > > working with the Carlyle Group (Bush Sr). Add to that the fact > that > > Robert Gates, a former CIA director, is alsoon the SAIC board..oh > > yeah, Wally O'Dell (Diebold head and coincidentally, a top bush > > donor) stated, for the record, to deliver Ohio's votes..but thats > ok, > > because Diebold is not the only electronic voting machine > > manufacturer..there is E&S,but wait the head of E&S is Todd > > Urosevich, brother of Bob Urosevich - the head of Diebold's > election > > division!! one other 'small' point..both these guys got their > start > > with $$ from Howard Ahmanson (Council for National Policy..check > out > > their base..it brings a new dimension to the word 'bush'.. is > > idefinitely begs to be looked into.. > > > > > > http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm > > > > for the next one, i find the nect to last story to be fascinating > > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0309/S00234.htm > > > > > > here is a great piece from the Cleveland Plain Dealer (who broke > the > > CIA-Diebold link, i have included a sample paragraph: > > > > http://www.cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/8371.php > > > ===================================================================== > = > > Bev Harris, who has since written a book, "Black Box Voting: > Ballot > > Tampering in the 21st Century" (available free from the site > > http://www.blackboxvoting.org), received 7,000 of the Diebold > > documents. Among them was a memo by GES employee Lana Hires to her > > supervisor during the 2000 election: "I need some answers," she > > writes. "Our department is being audited by the county. I have > been > > waiting for someone to give me an explanation as to why Precinct > 216 > > gave Al Gore a minus 16,022 votes when it was uploaded. Will > someone > > please explain this so that I have the information to give the > > auditor instead of standing here `looking dumb?'" > > > ===================================================================== > = > > > > this bit, i have not researched, and i have nothing to back it up. > > but if it's true it definitely should raise some questions..this > was > > in regards to the 2002 election, there results were all in favor > of > > the GOP in electronic voting districts, and they all won by the > same > > exact amount of votes..18,181..quite a coincidence > > > > Danny Scheel (TX) > > Carter Casteel (TX) > > Jeff Wentworth (TX) > > Candice Miller (MI) > > Michael Smigiel (MD) > > > > i got this from voxfux ( www.voxfux.com ) ..it is streaming in the > > banner at the top of the home page..i should say that this site is > a > > very, very conspiracy oriented site, but they do often back their > > stories up with mainstream media sources, etc..they have an > > incredible story.. http://tinyurl.com/25efr ..this was atually > front > > page news in the washington post, and i have seen a documentary on > > this topic...if it is true, as it appears to be, it is truly > > reprehensible... ------------------------ Yahoo! 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