I don't disagree with much of what you say, in particular the need 
to plan should Abbott money dry up.  It is becoming politically more 
unpopular, and with the threat of a constitutional convention 
looming, it could go away sooner than later.




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Tax abatements are a normal part of the quid pro quo in deals 
like 
> > this.
> > 
> > Do you think anyone could have gotten a deal done without tax 
> > incentives?
> > 
> It depends what else is in the deal. If you sell the assets for 
less 
> than they are worth perhaps you don't have to give the abatements. 
> Do you think people are buying up the waterfront condos because of 
> the abatements? I don't. I think a unit that sells for $500,000 is 
> scheduled to pay something around $7,000+ in PILOT payments. 
That's 
> with the abatements. A house selling for that amount pays perhaps 
a 
> little less (until revaluation kicks in). I know the secret of the 
> abatement at work here but I won't give it away. We got on this 
> subject because of the schools. All I am saying is that with 
nothing 
> of the PILOT going to the schools, the city better put something 
> aside from the PILOT for when state aid dries up. Off the subject, 
> it is not so much the abatements alone that bother me. It is 
> everything considered together. Despite how bad people say things 
> were in 2001, many cannot help to see the whole thing, if not as a 
> give away, then at best, not the wisest decisions. Although I 
don;t 
> really know your capabilities as a lawyer, I am going to assume 
you 
> are pretty good judging by your success. Would have signed such a 
> one-sided deal yourself? It's all spilled milk, right? We have to 
do 
> the best we can now, while being held hostage by Asbury Partners. 
> They will (have/are) not build anything. They're middlemen plain 
and 
> simple. Off topic, sorry.




 
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