Greetings,
Sharon didn't write the comment about trucking in people. I did.
I got my information from standupforasbury.org, both from the website and from
a phone
discussion.
This is what stand up states;
"The Mission is not offering a community service it will serve the homeless
and
drug abusers from Newark to Atlantic City"
Could anyone provide clarification for this, because it sounds to me like this
mission will
serve people other then from AP.
If I'm wrong about this, I stand corrected.
My major concern here is a worsening of the situation that has been a part of
Asbury's
downfall.
I, for one don't want to see our city further damaged by people who don't know
how to
respect their city.
You do make some good points though Steve.
But one thing I'd like to say...if somebody becomes homeless due to the
socio-economic
problems you've mentioned, does that mean they begin to lose their morals too,
and begin
to do things like puke on my front lawn, throw liquor bottles on my front lawn,
buy and
deal drugs etc? I guess some will, and others will take action to better there
lives, because
the alternatives are just a dead end street.
I encountered a women this evening who claims she recently became homeless at
44
because her husband was beating her. She was stinking of alcohol, and she
seemed fairly
intelligent. Sadly, she admitted to me the only way she can survive is by
selling her body.
It's really depressing to think that there is nothing else she can do to
survive.
If you are correct Steve, then the future looks pretty bleak.
In closing, it will forever amaze and sadden me that our poor little city is
suffering, while
on the other side of Deal lake, just north of here things are quite nice. I
lived in that nice
place for 10 years...Allenhurst...and even though i'm very well versed in the
history of
Asbury, I still can't imagine how in 2006 our city is so troubled in so many
ways.
Sincerely, Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sharon,
>
> Where'd you get the idea that the Homeless will be "trucked in from
> other cities, like Atlantic City and Newark"? That's Absurd! There
> are enough Homeless within a 2 Mile Radius of Asbury Park to keep the
> Jersey Shore Rescue Mission going indefinitely into the future!
>
> What really amazes me is that so many people have NO Idea of what even
> Causes Homelessness, either here or elsewhere!
>
> Homelessness will get worse & worse into our future, because even
> lower tier Middle Class People, of any Race, are now having severe
> problems just getting by in NJ! But in Asbury Park, our population is
> 60% Afro-American & 17% Hispanic, and the Median Income is only
> $24,000, compared to about $56,000 or higher in the County.
>
> With a combination of the Oceanfront Redevelopment, the Puppet Leaders
> refusing to support Rent Control and Affordable Housing and a lack of
> Living Wage Jobs for the Poor linked to a Training Program, and
> rapidly escalating Real Estate Values & Taxes, Homelessness will grow
> fast here!
>
> And as long as the Mayor, Loffredo & Bruno GIVE the City away to the
> Fishmans and everyone else making money here now, the people on the
> bottom of the ladder will NEVER have a chance! The poor have mostly
> been chased out of Trenton and are being moved out of Philly as we
> converse.
>
> When you have people with NO conscience and NO sense of Social
> Responsibility controlling the entire future of a City, one cannot
> expect for the weak and needy to be helped at all!
>
> As far as the problems with Drugs, Prostitution, Gangs and Violence
> goes, our ills and imbalances in Society ARE what causes those things
> to flourish in the first place! The Redevelopment is causing more and
> more people to TURN to Crime because less and less of them can afford
> to pay their Rents anymore! And Fort Monmouth's impending shut down
> will hurt the Middle Class in Monmouth County as much as the poor are
> getting hurt HERE in Asbury from the poorly planned Redevelopment!
>
> What's missing here is that the "Have's" making money from
> Redevelopment fail to realize their Social, Moral and Religious
> responsibility they need to live up to which would balance off the
> short comings which are taking place!
>
> But seriously, Sharon, before making false assumptions that the Rescue
> Mission is going to CREATE Homelessness here, you should speak to Dave
> Scott about it, since he knows the Stats and has been running the
> Morristown one for years!
>
> Furthermore, if our National Leaders would be responsible and raise
> the minimum wage high enough to live on, which it Was in 1970, then
> Poverty would decline and so would Homelessness Nationwide! And after
> WWII, there was a National Rent Control in place for a while due to
> dire circumstances, and it worked very well!
>
> For those of you who are Christian out there, all you have to do is
> look at Matthew 25:31-46, James 2:14-18 and Deuteronomy 15: 7-11 to
> see that helping the Poor isn't an OPTION, but a Command from God for
> us to be Socially responsible to do! But there are too many Greedy and
> False Christians out there to really DO what should be done today!
>
> And Homelessness isn't a Racial Problem, it's an economic one! But in
> a City that's 78% Minority, of course there'll be more non-whites who
> are Homeless! And they ARE discriminated against, too! But Nationally,
> there are more whites both on Welfare AND Homeless! It's just that
> most of them are in Southern States!
>
> Asbury Park is a Social Mess that's getting Worse, NOT better! As the
> Buildings get fixed, the People are getting SCREWED! And many People
> WILL lose their Souls in the Process which is unfolding!
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to comment on the Market Street Mission, and my opposition
> to it.
> > If I understand correctly, the people that are to stay there are to
> be trucked in from other
> > cities, like Atlantic City and Newark. I also believe that these
> people will be out on the
> > streets during the daytime.
> > Here's the problem I have with this...let's say some of these people
> are drug addicts. Boy,
> > they should be really happy, because for them, Asbury is one big
> drug playground. I know,
> > because I see the evidence of it on my lawn, in the park down the
> street and around the
> > horrible bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and 1st ave.
> > Maybe some of these people are also alcoholics. So should I prepare
> myself to clean up an
> > even greater amount of discarded beer and liquor bottles from my
> front lawn practically
> > every morning?
> > Don't get me wrong, I both feel for, and have empathy for the
> homeless. I was homeless
> > once myself when I was 18 years old. True, some people wind up
> homeless due to
> > circumstances beyond there control. But plenty of them wind up on
> the street because of
> > problems like drugs and alcohol.
> > In closing, since we in a period of rebirth in AP, how is the city
> going to benefit by adding
> > this shelter? And once new residents start streaming in, how are
> they going to deal with
> > the increased homeless population?
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Wolfe" <me@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why is this a racist comment? Do you have the racial demographics
> of the
> > > homeless population? Please forward it to me if you do, otherwise
> do not
> > > stereotype the homeless as one race and assume anyone that is not
> in favor
> > > of the Market Street Mission is a racist. If you do not have the
> statistics
> > > on the racial breakdown of the homeless population, you are being
> racist by
> > > assuming a particular race is the majority of the homeless. By
> the way,
> > > which race did you assume, unless you do have a census you can
> share with
> > > the group, was being discriminated against?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, by the way, to make your :"What a racist view!..." comments
> easier to
> > > find, please take some time and properly format your postings so
> the group
> > > can be enlightened by your wisdom. Oh, signing your accusations
> is very
> > > helpful, as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Tom Wolfe
> > >
> >
>
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