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Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: Mario you must be kidding with this complaint....Take all the shots you want at triCity, but on this issue I respectfully suggest you have no real complaint (I'm I mis-reading your story below ro did they actually print both your letters?). No you must be kidding. Did you read the entire
blog Menagerie without your
blinders?
In reverse chronological order you will find:
1. Your original triCity column from Dec. 8, 2005: "Saddam Still 2nd
Worst...."
2. My original complete letter to triCity dated Dec. 11,
2005, but the boldfaced bracketed text shows clearly what was cut when
it was published on Dec 22.
3. My follow-up letter, published Jan 6, implying censorship
(Again the above appear in reverse order in the blog.)
Unfortunately the "bloviating" comment was not included when I created the
blog. That was a swipe at me personally, but I'm not as sensitive to
personal swipes as you are.
I know that "censorship" at triCity sounds ridiculous. But if you
read the bracketed portions of the text which were never
published, you'll notice they contain my most damning criticisms of
your column. ("What was cut contained specific examples of [your]
insularity, intellectual flabbiness, and [your use of] one dubious
quote to support my criticism of the Justified Right column. What
remained of my text was without the “edge” (usually touted by triCity) I
intended.") The non-existent "direct quote" from Joe Wilson's
interview with Saddam still roils me. It really is the hook upon which
your entire column depended. Mere editing? Seemed unlikely.
Under normal circumstances I understand the necessity for editing to save
space, and I acknowledged that in my "K.I.S.S." reference. But when such
critical information is cut, you can't blame me for suggesting censorship.
You must be kidding when you demonize men (some severely
wounded) who served in the military just because they disagreed with the dubya
who was AWOL, his vice who had five deferments, and all the neo-cons who never
served a day.
And then after you Swiftboat them, you smugly added: "I'm with us, Mr.
President."
No. You must be kidding!
Back to the present. Once again today, you focused on a relatively
insignificant matter, my use of the term "censorship," and you ignored the more
profound implications: an "Orwell Deficit."
Sorry that for this post I didn't "K.I.S.S." I'm not a
sound bite kind of guy.
========Original Message========
Mario you must be kidding with this complaint. Hold any opinions you want about triCity and its substance (that's what the paper is actually for), but you can not complain about the public's access to have thier own view printed in it's pages. TriCityNews policy has always been if you slam us, we'll print it. If you hit is really hard, we will give you your own "guest view point" column for the week (or a columnist's space), and if you absolutely drop a bomb on our heads, we put you on the front page. Does any other paper even come close to that? There are people on this board I bet that have written to the Asbury Park Press and couldn't get printed. Usually the most you can hope for to defend yourself with them is one small quote buried within their story about you. Not too long ago they did a story that mentoned me by name, and ascribed a certain belief to me. They were wrong about what I believe. A asked them if I could put in a simple letter to the editor to dispute the issue of WHAT I BELIEVE and they won't print it. Take all the shots you want at triCity, but on this issue I respectfully suggest you have no real complaint (I'm I mis-reading your story below ro did they actually print both your letters?). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In another reference to NJDave's comment: > > > Well, this isn't the most appropriate forum for this, and I do > apologize in advance to other readers for responding to your > statement. I should have simply written a letter to the TCN last > June. > > > > > An experience in writing to TCN: > > Back in January I wrote a letter to the editor of triCity News about a > column smearing John Kerry, Congressman Murtha and others; the colum included an > apparently invented quotation. They published it in a very watered down > version. > > A week later, I wrote a follow-up letter to complain that my letter was > censored; they published that letter too but with a follow-up comment implying > that I was "bloviating." (Pot calling the kettle ....) > > The original TCN column and my uncensored letters can be found here. > _Menagerie_ (http://marioapnj.blogspot.com/) > > > > > ========Original Message======== > > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: This Board is a Tough Place Date: 10/18/2006 5:10:15 > P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent > on: > > > > > I assume you recall the Soviet's attempt at Marx's Communism. They > > had no private property either - government owned the land. > > > > Please allow me to turn the tables - where did you "come away with > > the idea" that Marx advocated private ownership of land? > > > > ============== > > Well, this isn't the most appropriate forum for this, and I do > apologize in advance to other readers for responding to your > statement. I should have simply written a letter to the TCN last > June. > > Your interpretation of Marx is a matter of intellectual honesty. A > common misconception shared by many is that the Soviets attempted > Marx's Communism. The irrefutable fact is they didn't. The Soviets > utilized commodity production, a political government, and a wages > system.... much the same as the capitalism we endure here in our own > country. > > The Communist Manifesto from which you quoted, AND took the quote out > of context , was written by a young Marx who had not yet examined > and analyzed capitalism to the extent that it was in Das Capital, > which was his most significant contribution to our understanding of > how capitalism works, something all of us should know and discuss, > that is, if we're interested in and committed to living in a real > democracy. > > You wrote, "The following is Marx's most famous quote from the > CM: "In this sense, the theory of communism may be summed up in the > single sentence: abolition of private property....s > > You eliminated the full, authentic text which qualified Marx's > qualifier "in this sense..." In its context, Marx's "bourgeois > private property" is TODAY's MODERN, PRIVATELY OWNED, CORPORATION.pri > the GMs, the GEs, the Halliburtons, and the rest of the corporate > complex whose dominant owners, (in contrast to the small investors) > whose market system and values dictate our culture. Those same > dominant owners of industry control our Congressional seats through > campaign financing. > > Marx never outlined a clear alternative to the current "private" > ownership (again, meaning corporately owned) of our necessary > industries. His real contribution is in pointing out how > capitalism's institutions do not serve well most citizens... and is > counter-productive to having a democratic, prosperous, and peaceful > society. > > As of today, we, as in We The People, have the US Constitution which > enables us to have a society in which our needed industries are > socially owned and democratically operated by ourselves for our own > use... rather than for the profit interests of a distinct capitalist > class minority. > > I'm concerned by the recent strong-armed attacks on our > constitutional freedoms in the name of 'protecting Americans'. > Yesterday was heralded and disguised as a benchmark day in the fight > against terrorism... but it really was a punch in the gut to the US > Constitution.Constitution.<WBR>.. and a get out of jail free card > administration. > > I digress. If you want to continue this discussion, I'll be in > Amherst, MA later this month for a conference on "Marx Revisited" > But I guess I won't see you there. > > I do, however, appreciate your insight into Asbury Park. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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